Fatal Accident True Story of a Friend
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I would not intentionally own a gun I could not fire the one in the chamber while trying to reload to defend against an armed intruder.
A chainsaw, shovel, axe or garden hoe is dangerous ....it's important to know how to use the tools you choose and how they operate/how they work.
I once wore tennis shoes with shoe laces, I tripped over them loose laces ... now I wear flip flops, they are safer (except when kicking a cactus)
Every gun I own has this safety called a bang switch, you put your finger on it to trip the switch and make it go bang .... don't put a finger on it and don't press it and it's safer. So, the situation I read in the original post was no accident, though it was negligence ... and sad.
A chainsaw, shovel, axe or garden hoe is dangerous ....it's important to know how to use the tools you choose and how they operate/how they work.
I once wore tennis shoes with shoe laces, I tripped over them loose laces ... now I wear flip flops, they are safer (except when kicking a cactus)
Every gun I own has this safety called a bang switch, you put your finger on it to trip the switch and make it go bang .... don't put a finger on it and don't press it and it's safer. So, the situation I read in the original post was no accident, though it was negligence ... and sad.
I'm no lawyer
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Never sure of why you would point what you thought was an unloaded gun at a person and pull the trigger. Scare them, intimidate them, who knows. Stupid.
Violates what three rules.
Story sounds very similar to this beautiful young daughter.
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She was killed at a party, by a teenager who brought a new (to him) gun. She had her back to this boy when he displayed the gun to his friends pointed it at the back of her head and pulled the trigger. He said he thought the gun was unloaded.
She was a senior at Memorial High School in near West Houston. Could have been any ones son or daughter. She was an only child for these parents. Had she lived she would be around 21 today, probably attending college, maybe a steady boyfriend by now with thoughts of marriage.
Don't know how many years he was sentenced to. Didn't end his life, but made a mess of it.
Violates what three rules.
Story sounds very similar to this beautiful young daughter.
https://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=69873410814" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; You may have to like the page to see the pretty young lady who was killed.
She was killed at a party, by a teenager who brought a new (to him) gun. She had her back to this boy when he displayed the gun to his friends pointed it at the back of her head and pulled the trigger. He said he thought the gun was unloaded.
She was a senior at Memorial High School in near West Houston. Could have been any ones son or daughter. She was an only child for these parents. Had she lived she would be around 21 today, probably attending college, maybe a steady boyfriend by now with thoughts of marriage.
Don't know how many years he was sentenced to. Didn't end his life, but made a mess of it.
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We used to have a firing replica 1863 Colt navy displayed on our fireplace when I was in high school. We kept caps in it to protect the nipples. When I had some mutual friends over one took the pistol and fired. We all froze for a second before we realized that the friend aimed at wasn't dead. A scary lesson learned and the other to haven't spoken to the third since.
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If a gun fires when someone intentionally pulls the trigger that's not an accident.
If they are intentionally pointing it at somebody's head that's not an accident either.
If they are intentionally pointing it at somebody's head that's not an accident either.
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From reading this thread - The Browning Hi Power and the Ruger SR9C.Are there any other guns like this?
I'm sure there are others.
Also, from reading this thread, it is not difficult to remove or disable this magazine safety.
Here is the bottom line:
Don't rely on a gun having a magazine safety. It may have failed, been removed or been disabled.
Treat all guns as loaded all the time and you will be safe.
That is the only way to be sure.
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Chemist45 wrote:From reading this thread - The Browning Hi Power and the Ruger SR9C.Are there any other guns like this?
I'm sure there are others.
Also, from reading this thread, it is not difficult to remove or disable this magazine safety.
Here is the bottom line:
Don't rely on a gun having a magazine safety. It may have failed, been removed or been disabled.
Treat all guns as loaded all the time and you will be safe.
That is the only way to be sure.

My dad taught me, "A loaded gun never accidentally shot anyone. Its is always the unloaded ones."
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Re: Fatal Accident True Story of a Friend
bizarrenormality wrote:If a gun fires when someone intentionally pulls the trigger that's not an accident.
If they are intentionally pointing it at somebody's head that's not an accident either.

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A lot of people have been killed by "unloaded" guns.
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Women and alcohol...combined with youthful exuberance, obviously can be a fatal combination...its gotten many a man in trouble, luckily for most just not to that terrible level.JALLEN wrote:I'm afraid so. It is inexplicable to me how someone with the level of training in weapons a SEAL has, and must perform very, very well each and every time, each and every assigned evolution in training, could have committed such a blunder. They do a LOT of shooting. I remember reading that one early SEAL Team's ammo budget was bigger than the entire Marine Corps ammo budget! It is just impossible for me to imagine how someone like that could be so stupid, but it happened!jdlott74 wrote:I read about that. I was thinking this what an idiot...He should have checked it the old fashioned way and LOOKED at it to make sure it was empty.JALLEN wrote:We had a newly graduated SEAL do something as dumb here last month. He was impressing his new friend of the feminine persuasion back at his place after a night of drinking, went to show her how safe the gun was, and blew his brains out by putting it to his head and pulling the trigger.
I've inquired of my SEAL pals here and that is not a recommended or taught method of checking unloaded. The old-fashioned way is best.