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Re: Finally gave in and bought a mouse gun!
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:25 am
by speedsix
...I'm thinkin' 230 grain's heavy enough to stop any mouse, rat, or other monster we might encounter in Texas...needing a gun's like needing a bowl of ice cream...first you need ENOUGH...
...OK...let me say it a nicer way...there are 9mms out now slightly larger than a .32 or .380...with quite a bit more stopping power...and the whole reason we carry a gun is to make them STOP RIGHT NOW...
Re: Finally gave in and bought a mouse gun!
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:47 am
by Excaliber
If ease of carry is the primary objective, one could always put one of
these on his keychain or behind his ear as suggested in the video.
Re: Finally gave in and bought a mouse gun!
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:27 am
by puma guy
Here you go!

Re: Finally gave in and bought a mouse gun!
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:16 pm
by speedsix
Excaliber wrote:If ease of carry is the primary objective, one could always put one of
these on his keychain or behind his ear as suggested in the video.
...they just couldn't wait to pick that'n, could they!!!
Re: Finally gave in and bought a mouse gun!
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:17 pm
by speedsix
puma guy wrote:Here you go!

...Tom's worst nightmare!!!
Re: Finally gave in and bought a mouse gun!
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:27 pm
by CC Italian
Like I said before guys I have no illusions of what this gun is. I only carry .40, 45 and 10mm for primary so this was hard for me to settle for but I rather have a p32 then an imaginary 9mm that I can't carry. If there was a 9mm that would fit the bill I would have bought it! I only use this when working out in a public park and to be honest even my 14 ounce j frame was too heavy and bulky (my pocket carry).
I went for the lightest and smallest as a last ditch effort. I leave my primary carry in the car. Carrying around even a Kahr cm9 was way too heavy for what I was doing! The Kahrs were close to 20 ounces when loaded. This is deep concealment not pocket carry. This is how I carry when working out.
http://www.511tactical.com/All-Products ... -Neck.html 99% of all chl holders don't usually need any deeper concealment then pocket carry.
This weighs in at just over 9 ounces loaded. It’s a huge difference in size and weight them the smallest 9mm! The P-3AT .380 kel tec is just over 11 ounces and the lcp is around 12 ounces. That was pretty much the 3 handguns that could meet my needs (other then a derringer) and I shot them all before settling on the p-32.
Re: Finally gave in and bought a mouse gun!
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:33 pm
by speedsix
...nice shirt...hadn't been exposed to those...seems a great way to carry my Jframe Bodyguard in the winter when it's cooler...thanks for the info...
Re: Finally gave in and bought a mouse gun!
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:47 pm
by barstoolguru
great; now you are all set for a mouse attack... good luck
Re: Finally gave in and bought a mouse gun!
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:59 pm
by C-dub
I'm revisiting this train of thought as well. I've seen that Kahr CM9 a couple of time now and am really thinking that the next time I see one I just might get it. That will be my first 9mm.
Re: Finally gave in and bought a mouse gun!
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:05 pm
by speedsix
...yesterday, I was pawing through some stuff in a box...found a bottle full of .22 Shorts...not even hollow points...held one in my hand and remembered all the times I saw a man lying dead because of ONE of these in a chest or stomach...NOT head shots...I don't want to get shot with ANY round...that's why I carry as much power as I can personally handle, and dress around it...to STOP the criminal before he can shoot me with whatever he is carrying...that's what it's about...
Re: Finally gave in and bought a mouse gun!
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:39 pm
by Jumping Frog
CC Italian wrote:. . . The Kahrs were close to 20 ounces when loaded.. . . This weighs in at just over 9 ounces loaded. It’s a huge difference in size and weight them the smallest 9mm!
All depends on perspective. I have far more than 10-11 ounces of extra weight to lose. I figure if I can stand carrying around the extra poundage on my body, then an extra half pound for more effective self defense is worth it to me.
Re: Finally gave in and bought a mouse gun! UPDATE
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:23 pm
by CC Italian
Ok everybody I just found the best deep concealment holster for intense workouts and if any of you are looking for something similar this is it!
After being able to carry my p-32 comfortable in my 5.11 undershirt I thought I was happy until I went to this weeks workout and decided that it is just getting to hot for an undershirt. So back to the drawing board! I already tried the smart carry which was great for mild jogging and walking but not for running, jumping, reverse crunches etc. So I thought I was destined to suffer with an extra shirt until I ran across this
http://www.pistolwear.com/ProductDetail ... 1496070781
This thing is so simple but so awesome for deep concealment! I just got it in last night and went on an hour long jog this morning and it stays 100% in place and you can not see any printing at all with the p32! It is just a Neoprene pocket that straps to your waist tightly (just like a sweat band). I am going to go to a workout tomorrow and I assume this puppy is going to be awesome!
The only downside to this holster is that I wish I found it earlier because I think I could carry a Kahr CM9 pretty easily with all the support this thing gives being that it is tightly tensioned against your body! Oh well one more way to justify another 9mm in the arsenal when I get my next handgun.
I don’t give 100% on a product review very often but this solves so many problems for us workout guys. I think my glock 27 would be a little heavy and bulky but anything like the Kahr CM9, Kel Tec PF9 or similar should work well. If any of you are looking for deep concealment I urge you to try one of these first so you don’t have to go through the trial process that I did.
Re: Finally gave in and bought a mouse gun!
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:35 pm
by The Annoyed Man
CC Italian wrote:Like I said before guys I have no illusions of what this gun is. I only carry .40, 45 and 10mm for primary so this was hard for me to settle for but I rather have a p32 then an imaginary 9mm that I can't carry. If there was a 9mm that would fit the bill I would have bought it! I only use this when working out in a public park and to be honest even my 14 ounce j frame was too heavy and bulky (my pocket carry).
I went for the lightest and smallest as a last ditch effort. I leave my primary carry in the car. Carrying around even a Kahr cm9 was way too heavy for what I was doing! The Kahrs were close to 20 ounces when loaded.
This is deep concealment not pocket carry. This is how I carry when working out. http://www.511tactical.com/All-Products ... -Neck.html 99% of all chl holders don't usually need any deeper concealment then pocket carry.
This weighs in at just over 9 ounces loaded. It’s a huge difference in size and weight them the smallest 9mm! The P-3AT .380 kel tec is just over 11 ounces and the lcp is around 12 ounces. That was pretty much the 3 handguns that could meet my needs (other then a derringer) and I shot them all before settling on the p-32.
The answer is easy. Do like I do. Don't work out. End of problem.

Re: Finally gave in and bought a mouse gun! UPDATE
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:25 pm
by Excaliber
CC Italian wrote:Ok everybody I just found the best deep concealment holster for intense workouts and if any of you are looking for something similar this is it!
After being able to carry my p-32 comfortable in my 5.11 undershirt I thought I was happy until I went to this weeks workout and decided that it is just getting to hot for an undershirt. So back to the drawing board! I already tried the smart carry which was great for mild jogging and walking but not for running, jumping, reverse crunches etc. So I thought I was destined to suffer with an extra shirt until I ran across this
http://www.pistolwear.com/ProductDetail ... 1496070781
This thing is so simple but so awesome for deep concealment! I just got it in last night and went on an hour long jog this morning and it stays 100% in place and you can not see any printing at all with the p32! It is just a Neoprene pocket that straps to your waist tightly (just like a sweat band). I am going to go to a workout tomorrow and I assume this puppy is going to be awesome!
The only downside to this holster is that I wish I found it earlier because I think I could carry a Kahr CM9 pretty easily with all the support this thing gives being that it is tightly tensioned against your body! Oh well one more way to justify another 9mm in the arsenal when I get my next handgun.
I don’t give 100% on a product review very often but this solves so many problems for us workout guys. I think my glock 27 would be a little heavy and bulky but anything like the Kahr CM9, Kel Tec PF9 or similar should work well. If any of you are looking for deep concealment I urge you to try one of these first so you don’t have to go through the trial process that I did.
It looks like an undershirt fanny pack - an interesting idea that will probably work well with a small to medium sized gun.
What is the material? Neoprene or something similar?
Please give us an update after you've worn it for a week or two.
Re: Finally gave in and bought a mouse gun!
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:27 pm
by CC Italian