Dems offer gun-control amendment to cybersecurity bill
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I think I'll order a few P-mags... not because I'm worried... rather, I want to support the industry!
hmmm windowed or windowless....
hmmm windowed or windowless....
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Yep....especially during the lame duck session!RPB wrote:I'm sure it won't pass, but you have gotta watch these guys.

I'm really surprised they didn't ban everything when they had the chance to bury it all in between the lines of the Affordable Care Act!

SCAREY how our Government works......(Read: doesn't work).

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Agreed.AEA wrote:Yep....especially during the lame duck session!RPB wrote:I'm sure it won't pass, but you have gotta watch these guys.![]()
I'm really surprised they didn't ban everything when they had the chance to bury it all in between the lines of the Affordable Care Act!
SCAREY how our Government works......(Read: doesn't work).
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RSJ wrote:I think I'll order a few P-mags... not because I'm worried... rather, I want to support the industry!
hmmm windowed or windowless....
That's one reason I've ordered quite a few things in the last 2 days which I'd have waited to order.
And I ordered from a place which "rounds up" to the nearest dollar and donates the round-up to the NRA... besides, they had the best prices
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Yes, but you need 100 rounds to shoot 100 ducks. :-)longtooth wrote:"No sportsman needs 100 rounds to shoot a duck,
By reducing the amount of times you need to reload, aren't we improving American productivity per duck shot? :-)
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N. Texas LTC's hold 3 breakfasts each month. All are 800 AM. OC is fine.
2nd Saturdays: Rudy's BBQ, N. Dallas Pkwy, N.bound, N. of Main St., Frisco.
3rd Saturdays: Golden Corral, 465 E. I-20, Collins St exit, Arlington.
4th Saturdays: Sunny St. Cafe, off I-20, Exit 415, Mikus Rd, Willow Park.
2nd Saturdays: Rudy's BBQ, N. Dallas Pkwy, N.bound, N. of Main St., Frisco.
3rd Saturdays: Golden Corral, 465 E. I-20, Collins St exit, Arlington.
4th Saturdays: Sunny St. Cafe, off I-20, Exit 415, Mikus Rd, Willow Park.
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By George ... he's wrong
Jason Alexander, the actor famous for playing George on “Seinfeld,” posted a long argument for a ban on assault-style weapons on Twitter Sunday:
http://www.salon.com/2012/07/22/jason_a ... gun_rant//" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Twitter can be fun
Jason Alexander, the actor famous for playing George on “Seinfeld,” posted a long argument for a ban on assault-style weapons on Twitter Sunday:
http://www.salon.com/2012/07/22/jason_a ... gun_rant//" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
See viewtopic.php?f=94&t=55447&p=682679&hil ... on#p682679" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;So the patriots are correct, gun ownership is in the constitution – if you’re in a well-regulated militia.
Twitter can be fun

@IJasonAlexander If you want more history on Militias and History viewtopic.php?f=94&t=55447" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A bit of real documented history instead of opinion of what they meant RE: "well regulated Militia" viewtopic.php?f=94&t=55447" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Edited Re: George killed the boy in the bubble (episode of Seinfeld) relationship to gun free zone defenseless ...@IJasonAlexander Boy in the Bubble lacks a defensive system which makes him prone to infections and death http://gunfreezone.net/wordpress/index. ... -of-logic/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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He's living the role of the stupid idiot he played on Seinfeld.
He obviously is unaware that the SCOTUS has put this argument to bed long ago.
He obviously is unaware that the SCOTUS has put this argument to bed long ago.
Alan - ANYTHING I write is MY OPINION only.
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Boy - If I had a time machine, I'd go back to the Second Amendment writers and have
them rephrase the 2A much more clearly to state that it is an indidvidual's right.
Strike out all that "militia" part that anti's hang their hat on when they think American citizens should not keep and bear arms.
Sheesh. Rant off.
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them rephrase the 2A much more clearly to state that it is an indidvidual's right.
Strike out all that "militia" part that anti's hang their hat on when they think American citizens should not keep and bear arms.
Sheesh. Rant off.
SIA
N. Texas LTC's hold 3 breakfasts each month. All are 800 AM. OC is fine.
2nd Saturdays: Rudy's BBQ, N. Dallas Pkwy, N.bound, N. of Main St., Frisco.
3rd Saturdays: Golden Corral, 465 E. I-20, Collins St exit, Arlington.
4th Saturdays: Sunny St. Cafe, off I-20, Exit 415, Mikus Rd, Willow Park.
2nd Saturdays: Rudy's BBQ, N. Dallas Pkwy, N.bound, N. of Main St., Frisco.
3rd Saturdays: Golden Corral, 465 E. I-20, Collins St exit, Arlington.
4th Saturdays: Sunny St. Cafe, off I-20, Exit 415, Mikus Rd, Willow Park.
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I had been procrastinating about joining the NRA. It just kept getting pushed down the “to do” list. With all this going on, it just rose to the top. I just got my thank you email..”Thank you for joining the NRA….”
I realize it’s a small step, but the journey has begun.
I realize it’s a small step, but the journey has begun.
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When I was a kid in South Texas, I was pretty good at quail hunting...but doves? They just laughed at me...I promise, I heard their little laughs as they flew right on by...longtooth wrote:They never watched me try to shoot ducks or dove."No sportsman needs 100 rounds to shoot a duck,![]()
Shotguns really give me some trouble.

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We need to take the offensive and start introducing gun friendly bills and get rid of a lot they have already done!
If the reps for the gun friendly States cannot get this done, fire them and put someone in there that will represent our interests in a positive and active way rather than a reactionary way. John Cornyn comes to mind as one (of many) that is just taking up space.
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They fudge the math too. There is no way on God's green earth that 100,000 Americans are dying by gun violence every year—not even if you count the drug dealers and gang-bangers.AndyC wrote:No, "these people" won't consider even the most reasonable-appearing control or compromise any longer - here's why:Despite these massacres recurring and despite the 100,000 Americans that die every year due to domestic gun violence – these people see no value to even considering some kind of control as to what kinds of weapons are put in civilian hands.
Even though we're not the problem, we gunnies have given things away in the name of compromise time and again (all one-sided, of course - when's your side going to step up to the plate?) - and each time we've been sold a pig in a poke. Witness the so-called 1986 Firearms Owners Protection Act - meant to curtail regulatory abuse on FFLs by the ATF and promoted by pro-gun groups, suddenly it magically closed the machine-gun registry.
Way to go, guys - find me a case where a single legal machine-gun has been used in a crime since 1934. All this law did was remove objects from the law-abiding and sky-rocket a $600 item to $16,000. Jolly well done - you idiots.
If your side had played open and honest cards from the start, you could have gotten our cooperation in trying to help (despite the fact that you're chasing unicorns) - but you've proven over and over that you don't negotiate in good faith. We're tired of getting the shaft, and now you're surprised that we don't want to play along any longer?
Get it through your thick skull, dummy: We - Don't - Trust You.
Hardly a "pro-gun" source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violen ... #Homicides
If we assume that those numbers are correct (they probably aren't) if you use the highest murder rate ever in the nation—35.4/100,000 in D.C. (ironically) in 2005—we are a nation of some 310 million people. That's 3,100 times 100,000. 3100x35.4=109,740. That's what it takes to get to a figure of 100,000 homicides. But those numbers also include homicide by knife, baseball bat, poison, drunk driving, child battery, etc., etc., etc. Even Wikipedia isn't so intellectually bankrupt to suggest that these are all gun deaths....although the next paragraph seems to imply it.Prevalence of homicide and violent crime is greatest in urban areas of the United States. In metropolitan areas, the homicide rate in 2005 was 6.1 per 100,000 compared with 3.5 in non-metropolitan counties.[27] In U.S. cities with populations greater than 250,000, the mean homicide rate was 12.1 per 100,000.[28] According to FBI statistics, the highest per capita rates of gun-related homicides in 2005 were in D.C. (35.4/100,000), Puerto Rico (19.6/100,000), Louisiana (9.9/100,000), & Maryland (9.9/100,000) .[29] The Bureau of Justice statistics from 2004 do not include D.C or Puerto Rico. see "Gun violence in the United States by state". Wikipedia. 2004.
Bottom line, when a democrat/liberal/gun-grabber gives you numbers, he's lying because his lips are moving.
If you bring up facts, be prepared to be called a RACIST!!!.
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I read that mans tweet, and it made my brain hurt. All you guys did great coming up with all the facts and numbers. I am still trying to get past that part where my AR is so much more deadly than the rifles I use for hunting. Lets see, as I look in the gun safe, I have the 25-06 I use for whitetail and antelope, the 7mm mag for mule deer and elk, and the trusty 338 for the future bear hunt.
Actual knowledge of what he is talking about does not seem to be required. So rather than try and figure out the rest of his little rant, I am just going to disqualify him on the bases of his own ignorance.
Now my brain feels much better.
Actual knowledge of what he is talking about does not seem to be required. So rather than try and figure out the rest of his little rant, I am just going to disqualify him on the bases of his own ignorance.
Now my brain feels much better.
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When Democrats like Obama, Lautenberg, Feinstein, etc. talk about how much they respect the 2nd Amendment, and then just can't seem to keep from going after more gun control anyway, it simply reminds me of the old "The Frog and the Scorpion" story.
It is as old as human nature, with a version of that story going back to Aesop's Fables called "The Farmer and the Viper". "It has the moral that kindness to the evil will be met by betrayal and is the source of the idiom 'to nourish a viper in one's bosom'." Alternatively, "you knew I was a scorpion; it is in my nature".
It is as old as human nature, with a version of that story going back to Aesop's Fables called "The Farmer and the Viper". "It has the moral that kindness to the evil will be met by betrayal and is the source of the idiom 'to nourish a viper in one's bosom'." Alternatively, "you knew I was a scorpion; it is in my nature".
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