How to Define a School?

[C-dub]

let's keep the definition of a school as a "government institution" where "so called learn'n takes place" and keep it concealed at all other locations

Let's repeal the bad law instead. There's no rational reason for that law, only ignorance and prejudice.

Why repeal it if you can end-run it?

Moving CHL's from PC § 46.15(b) to (a) has the side effect of making it legal for a CHL to carry anywhere that a LEO can carry, including schools.

Tricky tricky, but I like!

[bizarrenormality]

Moving CHL's from PC § 46.15(b) to (a) has the side effect of making it legal for a CHL to carry anywhere that a LEO can carry, including schools and college campuses.

Not exactly. It wouldn't do anything about PC § 46.035 restrictions that I can see.

[srothstein]

My personal opinion would be to take a small step by changing section 1.07 to define the terms school and educational institution as any institution, public or private, that is an institution of elementary or secondary education as those terms are defined in Title 20, section 7801, of the United States Code.

We could argue that it brings all of the penal code references into compliance with federal law and kind of hide the fact that it makes CHL legal on college campus. It does not provide the protection against being expelled or fired that the proposed bill did during the last session, but this one would be easier to get through, I think. It is the baby step to get us on the way towards where we need to be. The session after, we go for the protection at universities by showing how it is legal but there haven't been any problems, etc.

[SewTexas]

I'm sorry, I've been out of touch the last couple of days, dealing with in-laws health issues, all is...eh, they're upper 80's who am I kidding...they're ok for the moment.

anyway, on topic....Steve, you suggest:

My personal opinion would be to take a small step by changing section 1.07 to define the terms school and educational institution as any institution, public or private, that is an institution of elementary or secondary education as those terms are defined in Title 20, section 7801, of the United States Code.

We could argue that it brings all of the penal code references into compliance with federal law and kind of hide the fact that it makes CHL legal on college campus......

I know you guys are getting tired of 'hearing' me refer to the homeschool lobby, but y'al need to research the TEA party back in '89 and see what we can do. I am not sure how this might impact homeschoolers, but to be perfectly honest, the above...well, it scares me as a homeschooler. My home is a home, education just happens to occur in it. (now, I don't have the time to look up the stuff you have sited) Basically what I'm saying is if you give the TEA the chance, they will take the opportunity and will redefine homeschoolers and everyone who does any kind of alternative ed into their idea of what should be done. No...

I'll start redefining brownies

[srothstein]

Tracy,

I understand your concern, but you would not need to worry with my definition because your home, even when you teach in it, is not an institution. The term has no definition I can find which would indicate it covers your home or a home school.

But, I am more than willing to amend that if you have a preferred word.

[SewTexas]

Steve,

I'm not saying you personally intend anything, I know you, you're a nice guy. I'm saying if you start something like this, you must be prepared for what will happen. And what will happen is the teacher lobby, teacher union, will latch on to it and go batty. They will then try to redefine what "education" means and while they're at it how 'bout what "religion" means.

Just saying...I'm going to redefine what Brownies mean