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Re: DHS purchases 2700 MRAPs

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:44 pm
by longtooth
Syntyr wrote:Okay I am not a conspiracy minded person and I have discounted the whole DHS buying up all of the ammo but if this is true... What does DHS need with 2700 Mine Resistant Armor Protected vehicles?

Just asking...

http://modernsurvivalblog.com/governmen ... t-sweeper/

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Sir if you have to ask then you problbly will not believe the answer.

Re: DHS purchases 2700 MRAPs

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:03 pm
by anygunanywhere
These are to form the roving roadblocks when martial law is declared and barry finally implements his plan. What else would they be used for? If you actually think they would be used for something lawful and constitutional then you need to think again.

Also, what LT just posted.

Remember, this is the government that can do nothing right.

Anygunanywhere

Re: DHS purchases 2700 MRAPs

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:48 am
by TexasGal
These vehicles will come in handy if you have been running the nation like the biggest pyramid scheme in history. You know it's going to get ugly before it can all be molded to your vision of a better Socialist America using the weak minded fools who put you in power.

Re: DHS purchases 2700 MRAPs

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:59 am
by longtooth
TexasGal wrote:These vehicles will come in handy if you have been running the nation like the biggest pyramid scheme in history. You know it's going to get ugly before it can all be molded to your vision of a better Socialist America using the weak minded fools who put you in power.

WOW

This falls in my file folder of Wish I had said that

Good job Maam :thumbs2:

Re: DHS purchases 2700 MRAPs

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:58 am
by SRH78
TexasGal wrote:These vehicles will come in handy if you have been running the nation like the biggest pyramid scheme in history. You know it's going to get ugly before it can all be molded to your vision of a better Socialist America using the weak minded fools who put you in power.
Well said ma'am :iagree:

Re: DHS purchases 2700 MRAPs

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:02 pm
by mamabearCali
I think they are a colossal waste of money. These things are great...against an entrenched location or as some have suggested as moving roadblocks. Perhaps they are to be used to transport dignitaries around after they have so infuriated the people that the dignitaries themselves are targets. They would not be very effective at quelling an insurgency, especially one of the size and breadth that would sweep America should they keep messing around. Keep pushing dummies, the people are watching now.


I expect they will be used little but will rust much. A nice toy for those who can to play with.

Re: DHS purchases 2700 MRAPs

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:10 pm
by Grillmark55
This, combined with the recent hoarding of over a billion rounds of ammo by "domestic" agencies really make me wonder what Obama is preparing for. You can bet that this isn't all just for target practice like they are claiming.

Re: DHS purchases 2700 MRAPs

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:44 pm
by donkey
Anyone have a legitimate source for DHS purchasing 2700 MRAPs?

http://www.businessinsider.com/homeland ... rap-2013-3

This article quotes a DHS spokesman as saying they only have 16 MRAPs that were transfered from the DOD in 2008.

The only thing I can find is a contract from 2011/2012 for Navistar to upgrade 2700 USMC MRAPs. I've come across nothing for DHS.

Re: DHS purchases 2700 MRAPs

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:22 am
by IChangIT
"Looks like the police have got themselves an RV!"

Re: DHS purchases 2700 MRAPs

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:35 am
by apostate
Oh my God, the quarterback is toast!

Re: DHS purchases 2700 MRAPs

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:18 am
by bagman45
:iagree: LOL at the past two comments!! :hurry: On the other hand, if confronted by one of those during an illegal government act, someone might say; "I'll take that under advisement, Mr. Cowyboy; HIT IT AGAIN!!"

Re: DHS purchases 2700 MRAPs

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:31 am
by stevie_d_64
Another update...Some in the media are starting to wake up...

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorial ... es.htm?p=2" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

For the record, I have asked the question of my US Congressman, my Dad's Congressman, and our new Jr. Senator Mr. Cruz...Who's offices have taken this issue and started to ask questions...

The one thing that has not been stated in these discussions is how can these purchases be conducted with little or no debate, no oversight to the point of public knowledge of this activity till now???

Very simple...

When the government operates on NO budget, or budgets submitted, but unable to pass into implementation, then this is what you get...Emergency spending measures ("year end", government shutdown fears) which we have seen over the last few years have enabled elements (department's) within our government to sock away funds for this very purpose, with little or no congressional oversight...Thats how we are in the predicament we are in now...

All of these purhcases have been confirmed by Jeb Hensarling's office...In addition, there are 400+ M1117's which have been refurbished and will be added to the count of MRAP's in the original story...(Look these babies up...You'll love the turret that comes standard with these things) So it is not just the 2,700+ MRAP's, it is supplemented with these vehicles as well...

So what we have here is a manuevering "army" of at least the strength of 4-5 divisions with mobility, arms and ammunition to do the bidding of off nominal DoD control and constraints...Reporting to only the DHS secretary, and the President of the United States...A very short chain of command if you ask me...

It may take another year or so to fully field these units/teams within our borders, but seeing how they already have a sham of a mission to assist local law enforcement in supporting "trouble" warrants, (a nice cover story), the more of these that are formed up and fielded, the less we will probably hear about them till they are revealed for their as yet, and obvious, purpose...

And these units will not go away, until they are defunded, by whom??? Good question...

So the guanstlet has been thrown down, the intent is clear with their presense...And we have only begun to scratch the surface in their purpose, even though we have some pretty smart people figuring this out already...

I would suggest that each of us press our congressional reps to get dirty with this right now...What else are they going to do??? right??? they have failed to stop the fiscal insanity of the majority and administrations effort to create this economic environment, and now it is readily apparent they wish to create a social environment that is teetering on the brink of chaos, which they (government/administration) are preparing to be able to swoop in and quell...

It is a win/win for them, and yet, when the "quelling" is done, what will get these unit/teams to stand down???

If you have the answer to that, I would love to hear it, because the congressional offices I have contacted don't have a frappin' clue!!!

If this issue is not enough to get folks like us fired up and expecting those we put in there to represent us, and keep the fight within those houses, then I don't know what else it takes...Better to be there than in the streets, which at that time it is too late...

Think about it...This is NOT a tin-foil cap, or black helicopters conspiracy issue anymore, never was, never will be...Their position/intent is clear...

Re: DHS purchases 2700 MRAPs

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:33 am
by anygunanywhere
mamabearCali wrote:I expect they will be used little but will rust much. A nice toy for those who can to play with.
I doubt that.

They will be used to great effect once the tyrants decide to implement the plan.

These are not $500 toilet seats.

These go right along with the drones. If folks do not believe this then reread what government mafioso hit man holder wrote to Rand Paul

Anygunanywhere

Re: DHS purchases 2700 MRAPs

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:36 am
by stevie_d_64
Don't forget the drones which will be utilized to provide overwatch and are now cleared to kill American citizens, in some cases, domestically...According toi the US Attorney General (who has been impeached, but not removed from that office)...that news came in yesterday...Maybe some here might have noticed that as well...

Re: DHS purchases 2700 MRAPs

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:45 am
by chasfm11
From the link in Stevie_d_64's post
An earlier version of this post included a figure of over 2,700 vehicles, as cited from the original RT link. This figure likely comes from a press release from Navistar Defense, mentioning delivery of 2,717 to the U.S. Marine Corps. A DHS Spokesman confirmed with Business Insider that they have only 16 nationwide.
16 of these vehicles in DHS's hands is bad enough. We do need to get to the bottom of how such purchases are being made. Like others, I've written to my Federal representatives and asked them to specifically look into this matter. I'm not optimistic. When you combine the ammo purchases, the drones and now these, one has to really stretch the imagination to believe it is anything but a problem for the law abiding American people.