Disarming in your daily routine

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TexasCajun wrote:
kg5ie wrote:My current employer will not allow me to carry in the building nor will they allow me to have a firearm in the car in the parking lot. :rules: Hate those sort of laws. We need to fix that.
If you don't work in one of the industries that is allowed to prohibit storing a firearm in your vehicle, you may want to send a copy of the personnel policy to the TSRA with all of the relevant details to the TSRA. They've been a valuable resource in educating employers about the parking lot law.

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kg5ie wrote:
TexasCajun wrote:
kg5ie wrote:My current employer will not allow me to carry in the building nor will they allow me to have a firearm in the car in the parking lot. :rules: Hate those sort of laws. We need to fix that.
If you don't work in one of the industries that is allowed to prohibit storing a firearm in your vehicle, you may want to send a copy of the personnel policy to the TSRA with all of the relevant details to the TSRA. They've been a valuable resource in educating employers about the parking lot law.

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I wrote to the main office of the one local bank - mine - that has 30.06 signs. No telling if I did any good. No reply yet.

Scooting my Crossbreed IWB holster out is easier when I'm standing. For the Post Office and the sheepskates at the bank, I draw the gun and put it in my center console. I'm skittish about holstering, so I just leave it in the console until I'm somewhere I can re-arm without contorting behind the wheel.

Funny thing, those 30.06 signs. They really don't affect very many people at all. Ninety-seven percent of the population don't have CHL's, they aren't affected. Whatever percent that commit crime, they aren't affected. Just those sad few who virtually never commit crimes and have gone through background checks. :confused5
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Only in the shower for me but I have a firearm on the counter waiting. Do they make "soap on a rope" in the shape of a 1911?
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rbwhatever1 wrote:Only in the shower for me but I have a firearm on the counter waiting. Do they make "soap on a rope" in the shape of a 1911?
Will a Glock do?

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Pawpaw wrote:
rbwhatever1 wrote:Only in the shower for me but I have a firearm on the counter waiting. Do they make "soap on a rope" in the shape of a 1911?
Will a Glock do?
Absolutely! You can shoot your way out of a really bad situation with those extended magazines. Nice.
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I am new to the CHL world and Have not been able to carry yet due to working in the Oil Field. Due to Texas State Law I will not be able to carry on unexpired oil leases. This puts me driving hundreds/ thousands of miles away from home with my weapon safe at the house. I have seen good men get fired (luckily not prosecuted) for having firearms in their vehicles while out on the rigs. So, normal day to day out here will be without CCW.

As I was home for days off, wife and I were running around town and I noticed a few places that we frequent had "NO WEAPONS ALLOWED" signage. With that being said, even though legally I would be able to carry there, we will no longer be patrons of those establishments. You don't want my legal concealed weapon inside, I don't want to be inside...... :nono:

Most of the places we go are very pro CHL, I did notice that our local liquor stores invite CHL holders and NRA members with discounts..... (We do not frequent those places often).

My wife can carry at work, and possibly someday she will. Her Boss actually paid for all the girls licenses and CHL Class. He states they are to protect themselves at all cost. And as explained to them that the business is insured, PROTECT YOURSELF!
MORE BOSSES SHOULD BE LIKE THIS OUTSTANDING AMERICAN! :patriot:

That is my rant. I will fill in more once I am able to actually carry......

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Blue5 wrote:I am new to the CHL world and Have not been able to carry yet due to working in the Oil Field. Due to Texas State Law I will not be able to carry on unexpired oil leases. This puts me driving hundreds/ thousands of miles away from home with my weapon safe at the house. I have seen good men get fired (luckily not prosecuted) for having firearms in their vehicles while out on the rigs. Blue 5
Sounds to me like a bad Law that needs to be revisited and thrown out.
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My EDC is a Glock 19 or G42, spare magazine and a flashlight. My gun stays in the holster at all times and it being a paddle holster I simply take it off of my belt and put it in my Cannon safe which is bolted to the right rear floorboard of my car. If I must un-holster I use the right front floorboard as my safe zone but this is done rarely. At home the same rule applies, the gun stays in it's holster, if it must come out I must go to my gun room and only un-holster/re-holster at my work bench.
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rbwhatever1 wrote:
Blue5 wrote:I am new to the CHL world and Have not been able to carry yet due to working in the Oil Field. Due to Texas State Law I will not be able to carry on unexpired oil leases. This puts me driving hundreds/ thousands of miles away from home with my weapon safe at the house. I have seen good men get fired (luckily not prosecuted) for having firearms in their vehicles while out on the rigs. Blue 5
Sounds to me like a bad Law that needs to be revisited and thrown out.
Agreed. Unfortunately there's a lot of money and clout tied up with oil companies. Also, there are strange legalities with oil field workers being on land not owned by the employer. I can understand the hesitance, but it does need to be improved somehow for those that are affected.
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OSCAR E wrote:I disarm everyday when I come to work, I work at the university of Texas at Austin so no weapons there, when I get out I carry again until I go to sleep.
Here's to hoping Campus Carry gets passed.
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joelamosobadiah wrote:
rbwhatever1 wrote:
Blue5 wrote:I am new to the CHL world and Have not been able to carry yet due to working in the Oil Field. Due to Texas State Law I will not be able to carry on unexpired oil leases. This puts me driving hundreds/ thousands of miles away from home with my weapon safe at the house. I have seen good men get fired (luckily not prosecuted) for having firearms in their vehicles while out on the rigs. Blue 5
Sounds to me like a bad Law that needs to be revisited and thrown out.
Agreed. Unfortunately there's a lot of money and clout tied up with oil companies. Also, there are strange legalities with oil field workers being on land not owned by the employer. I can understand the hesitance, but it does need to be improved somehow for those that are affected.

Joe you are exactly right. The companies we represent lease to properties from land owners and many land owners want no employee or 3rd party person too carry on their property during exploration or production. It is a bit scary when you can toss a rock into the Rio Grande from your office. And Border Patrol chases people through location.... We have also had individuals lives taken for their trucks.. We drill in the armpit of the world most of the time and between the long distance travel and the locations of many of these leases, one feels uneasy about not being able to protect themselves.

Until the law changes, or they start paying oil field wages at McDonald's, These are the days of our lives. Daily you pray that you make it to town for milk and back to location.
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Are these oil leases all "canned" with the same language in them? Seems to me that the leasing company is trying to mitigate a problem that may not exist or is just trying to limit their liability. If they were concerned about Private Property Rights a simple "will you allow our workers to defend themselves yes or no sign here please" would suffice.

I would allow oil workers the right to defend themselves on my land if they asked. About 7 years ago they laid 1100' of pipe through a tiny corner of my property and I wasn't happy about the right of way and held out as long as I could but when it was a done deal I helped them any way I could. I moved my cattle to adjacent pastures so they wouldn't have to put in a temporary fence for a month. Didn't have a clue these guys were all unarmed in their personal trucks. Never really thought about it.
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With that being said..... I know I could throw a rock and hit at least 5 trucks out of 10 on location right now that have a firearm in it. I am not saying that they are wrong or right, however the law says that it is illegal!

I will be Mr. Law Abiding Citizen and Pray daily that I am not a victim.

I think this is what is call hijacking a thread.... SORRY!!!!!! :???:
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rbwhatever1 wrote:Are these oil leases all "canned" with the same language in them? Seems to me that the leasing company is trying to mitigate a problem that may not exist or is just trying to limit their liability. If they were concerned about Private Property Rights a simple "will you allow our workers to defend themselves yes or no sign here please" would suffice.

I would allow oil workers the right to defend themselves on my land if they asked. About 7 years ago they laid 1100' of pipe through a tiny corner of my property and I wasn't happy about the right of way and held out as long as I could but when it was a done deal I helped them any way I could. I moved my cattle to adjacent pastures so they wouldn't have to put in a temporary fence for a month. Didn't have a clue these guys were all unarmed in their personal trucks. Never really thought about it.
No they are not (I am a landmand involved with leasing mineral owners). In fact, in my experience, most form leases don't have any language concerning firearms, but many owners will put these into their own leases. It's "easier" for the oil company to make a blanket policy rather than review each tract of land and whether it's allowed or not and relay that information to their employees.
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