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This question comes up from time to time and I always wonder about the motivation.

Why would the Police have the right to ask for your ID anyway?

I know this is a Texas forum, but just for completeness, it also depends on state law (if you travel, that's important). For instance, Ohio requires you to show your license whether you are a passenger or driver.

If a licensee is the driver or an occupant of a motor vehicle that is stopped as the result of a traffic stop or a stop for another law enforcement purpose and if the licensee is transporting or has a loaded handgun in the motor vehicle at that time, the licensee shall promptly inform any law enforcement officer who approaches the vehicle while stopped that the licensee has been issued a concealed handgun license and that the licensee currently possesses or has a loaded handgun.

txpilot wrote:I know this is a Texas forum, but just for completeness, it also depends on state law (if you travel, that's important). For instance, Ohio requires you to show your license whether you are a passenger or driver.

If a licensee is the driver or an occupant of a motor vehicle that is stopped as the result of a traffic stop or a stop for another law enforcement purpose and if the licensee is transporting or has a loaded handgun in the motor vehicle at that time, the licensee shall promptly inform any law enforcement officer who approaches the vehicle while stopped that the licensee has been issued a concealed handgun license and that the licensee currently possesses or has a loaded handgun.

This would be funny on a family road trip. We'd be handing over three ID's with at least 2/3 carrying.

bblhd672 wrote:FWIW- My instructor said if you are passenger and the LEO asks you how you're doing then you are required to present LTC.

Your instructor was wrong. It is not a requirement unless asked for ID.

The Annoyed Man wrote:

bblhd672 wrote:FWIW- My instructor said if you are passenger and the LEO asks you how you're doing then you are required to present LTC.

Your instructor was wrong. It is not a requirement unless asked for ID.

TexasTornado wrote:

txpilot wrote:I know this is a Texas forum, but just for completeness, it also depends on state law (if you travel, that's important). For instance, Ohio requires you to show your license whether you are a passenger or driver.

If a licensee is the driver or an occupant of a motor vehicle that is stopped as the result of a traffic stop or a stop for another law enforcement purpose and if the licensee is transporting or has a loaded handgun in the motor vehicle at that time, the licensee shall promptly inform any law enforcement officer who approaches the vehicle while stopped that the licensee has been issued a concealed handgun license and that the licensee currently possesses or has a loaded handgun.

This would be funny on a family road trip. We'd be handing over three ID's with at least 2/3 carrying.

I don't think there would be as much reaction as you like to think. Most LEOs have seen this many more times than you think. It might be your first rodeo but not theirs.

WTR wrote:Why would the Police have the right to ask for your ID anyway?

Police have the right to ask you anything they want. What they can demand from you is a different story.

nightmare69 wrote:

WTR wrote:Why would the Police have the right to ask for your ID anyway?

Police have the right to ask you anything they want. What they can demand from you is a different story.

I would agree that they have the right to ask (just like they have the "right" to lie about certain things). However, they don't have a right to a response without probable cause.( although they will ask you as if they have a right to a response.)

On most traffic stops that I conducted, I very seldom interacted with the passenger unless there were extenuating circumstances. i.e contraband in plain sight, suspicious activity from the passenger as I approached the vehicle, or if the driver could not produce ID.
I have never been asked for ID while a passenger in a vehicle during a traffic stop, but if I were, and I was carrying my gun, I would provide both my DL and LTC.
I have never had a bad interaction with law enforcement while carrying, and I don't see that refusing to provide ID would benefit me in any way. I try to put a good face on LTC while interacting with public, so if I am polite and provide ID to an officer, it will keep that good will for the next LTC holder he/she comes in contact with. JMHO.

Jusme wrote:On most traffic stops that I conducted, I very seldom interacted with the passenger unless there were extenuating circumstances. i.e contraband in plain sight, suspicious activity from the passenger as I approached the vehicle, or if the driver could not produce ID.
I have never been asked for ID while a passenger in a vehicle during a traffic stop, but if I were, and I was carrying my gun, I would provide both my DL and LTC.
I have never had a bad interaction with law enforcement while carrying, and I don't see that refusing to provide ID would benefit me in any way. I try to put a good face on LTC while interacting with public, so if I am polite and provide ID to an officer, it will keep that good will for the next LTC holder he/she comes in contact with. JMHO.

I also try to comply with all request and am as polite as possible. All my interactions with Police and my CHL have been very positive,