carrying around the house question

[sjfcontrol]

As I recall, Chihuahuas are most likely to bite but they aren't responsible for many fatalities.

I'd be quite embarrassed to tell St. Peter that I'd died from a chihuahua attack.

Maybe it was a pack of Chihuahuas or an attack in Chihuahua.

Chihuahua Zombies?

(What does a Chihuahua zombie say? "Brains... Brains.... BraSQUIRREL!")

[AlfaBrewer]

I had a dachshund that bit more people than all my other dogs combined (0 for the other dogs, 3 that I know of for the dachshund). Amazingly, my then girlfriend (now my wife) stayed with me after that little t-u-r-d bit her nose (absolutely unprovoked) on our second date.

[sjfcontrol]

I had a dachshund that bit more people than all my other dogs combined (0 for the other dogs, 3 that I know of for the dachshund). Amazingly, my then girlfriend (now my wife) stayed with me after that little t-u-r-d bit her nose (absolutely unprovoked) on our second date.

Watch it! Several of us around here have doxies...

That's her under the tree... (not posed)

[C-dub]

Considering what Dachshunds were originally bred for I'm not surprised. They don't have little dog syndrome, that tough nastiness is really in there somewhere. Many other small breeds, like Chihuahua's, just have little dog syndrome.

[txbirddog]

I had a similar experience a few months ago. Around 4am I woke up startled when I heard what sounded like 5 dogs attacking something and it was so loud it sounded like it was in my living room. I got up, grabbed my .45 (which has a light on it), and went to the front to see 4 or 5 junkyard looking dogs outside. I have two indoor cats and a couple outdoor cats. When I stepped out the front door, the chow looking dog had my young cat dead and limp in it's mouth. I had the gun pointed at him shining the light and the dog dropped the dead cat and began snarling at me taking a couple steps towards me about 5 feet away. I shot him right in the face and down he went. The other dogs ran like heck.

I am a huge animal lover and I hated killing that dog, but when he turned on me, that was it. Dealing with the big, dead dog was also a pain in the ass, but that's another story. While I hated killing the dog, I also didn't feel the slightest bit of remorse. Dogs like that in a city neighborhood are accidents waiting to happen.

I now keep a fresh can of wasp and hornet spray right by my front door incase that happens again. In the future, my first course of action will be to spray the dog in the face with the W&H spray (but I'll have the gun handy incase that doesn't work).

I am a total dog man as you could gather from my moniker (and from my little friends in the room right now),,,,,,but if the cat had not been handy; it might have been a child. You may want to think about that one. I have seen pack dogs and they are NOTHING TO TAKE FOR GRANTED. Just like a pack of wolves, if the leader can and will attack, all the others will join in. The W&H spray may not be the best defense,,,,,,just sayin'.......


If you want to find out what are the "bad" breeds, check with your homeowner's insurance carrier. Even raising English pointers and setters, my first application was denied. These are getting to be expensive claims.

[AustinBoy]

Pepper Spray!

I pulled a can of wasp spray out of the garage.
This is a quote from the label:

"It is a violation of Federal law to use this product in a manner inconsistent with its labeling."

There is nothing on the label that says it is ok to spray anything but a wasp.

A 2oz can of pepper spray is $15 and shoots 15 feet.

And, we know that pepper spray works! (ok, 99% of the time)

AB

[RPB]

wasp and hornet spray?
Wouldn't surprise me if it was a felony to spray poison on a dog
http://www.spca.org/page.aspx?pid=316" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Pepper is a natural organic plant and a food. Dr Oz recommends eating some every so often.

Section 42.09 "Cruelty to Livestock Animals" and 42.09(2) "Cruelty of Non-Livestock Animals" of the Texas Health and Safety Code prohibits a person from intentionally, knowingly or recklesly cruelly treating an animal. The following actions define cruel punishment:

Torturing an animal
Failing to provide food, care or shelter
Abandoning an animal
Transporting or confining an animal in a cruel manner
Killing, seriously injuring or poisoning an animal

felony,... $10,000 fine and up to two years in jail.

Livestock animal is defined though
http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/D ... /PE.42.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Sec. 42.09. CRUELTY TO LIVESTOCK ANIMALS

[AustinBoy]

From : http://www.fightbackgroup.com/blog/pepp ... rdict.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

How reliably a wasp spray in the face might work, as a deterrent against human assailants is bound to vary, according to differences in the formula used and the fact that they were never made for the purpose of self defense in the first place. The effectiveness of insecticide sprays for self-defense is not clearly known and an adult American would be better off to fight back with a bonafide non-lethal, self-defense pepper spray obtained from a reliable source!

Wasp spray is a bad idea. But then again, so are rape and murder. If I had to choose between wasp spray or nothing, you can bet your sweet bippy that I would use the wasp spray. And I might get away with it, if I could prove that it was a sudden thought, a panic move in self-defense. But if the assailant sues me on the basis of premeditated use of poison, I might be in legal hot water. WHY plan to risk legal charges, when many of our products shoot just as far, and all of them are as effective or more effective and none of them leave me vulnerable to a legal challenge? When you think of it that way, a few extra dollars spent on a good pepper spray is like insurance. You hope you don’t need it, but when you do, you’re sure glad you’ve got it!”

[RPB]

I'd consider administering a poison ... deadly force.
As in hold him down and pour poison on it ...
Just sounds like a really bad idea and I'd hate to explain it to a jury that I didn't want to use pepper/a food to get it away, or use deadly force of my gun to defend myself quickly ending a threat ... I preferred to poison it, causing permenant blindness, terrible illness and a slow death, or cancer later.
I suppose you could spray paint the attacker's eyes or use a spray glue to glue it/him to the floor or glue the attacker's eyes cosed
Why not just keep hair spray handy ?
Better yet, use things for their intended purpose
if you want sprays, get pepper spray

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[jim]

as far as dogs go , i have had problems with the family that lives next door . every thing from knocking boards lose (privacy fence )to killing stray cats in the yard . the best thing you can do is call the police get a police report . next thing get a good pepper spray or even wasp spray works real good (25 foot spray distance ) . spray the crap out of the damn dog . keep reporting to police and animal control if the dog does bit you are now covered . this they way i was told to cover my butt just in case I did have to shot these damn dogs . remember we that carry must be extra careful to cover are butts

[Heartland Patriot]

Dumb question, as I should know the answer, but can you open carry on your own property?

Simple answer: Yes. I do all the time.

I do too

I shovel, mow weedeat etc all the time armed, why wouldn't I be? Where else do home Invasions occur?

Not a dumb question though.
Chapter 46 says you commit an offense if you are not on your own property, .... etc etc etc
http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/D ... /PE.46.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Sec. 46.02. UNLAWFUL CARRYING WEAPONS. (a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his or her person a handgun, illegal knife, or club if the person is not:

(1) on the person's own premises or premises under the person's control; or

(2) inside of or directly en route to a motor vehicle or watercraft that is owned by the person or under the person's control.

(a-1) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his or her person a handgun in a motor vehicle or watercraft that is owned by the person or under the person's control at any time in which:

(1) the handgun is in plain view; or

etc etc etc

It's legal, but only you know your neighborhood, if you want to advertise that you have guns they can steal when you are not home or that the home invaders better be armed too or if skittish liberals call police "man with a gun mowing the yard" or whatever All drivers by in my city just smile and wave; the UPS and mailman usually pop out of their truck and ask what I'm carrying today and ask my opinion on whatever they're thinking of buying

I know this wasn't the main topic here, but even though I know what the law says and what folks have posted here, I personally would be leery of open carrying where we live in Ft. Worth. I am a renter in a suburban neighborhood. Even though I'm pretty certain I wouldn't "take a ride", I have a feeling that if I were to openly carry a pistol around on the property, that law enforcement would be called by someone. So, I just stick with concealed means concealed. Now, carrying an uncased long gun out to my truck to go the range, I've done that multiple times, no big deal.

[E.Marquez]

Buy a BB gun. There is no better training method for people who are too lazy or stupid to train/control their own dogs. I have "trained" several dogs over the years, but I gata tell you that dog in your driveway... his training would have been over.

Just in case you don't know,, your "training" method is more likely to result in charges, conviction and the loss of your CHL then any training you mistaking believe it to be doing.

By all means, owners should care for, and safeguard/ secure there pets... and it sounds like you have a pet owner that needs training more then the loose dog..

But shooting a dog with a BB gun is not the right answer, and if viewed by most folks, will get the law called on you,,,or worse.

[tacticool]

Chihuahua Zombies?

(What does a Chihuahua zombie say?

"Yo quiero sesos."

[RottenApple]

I know this wasn't the main topic here, but even though I know what the law says and what folks have posted here, I personally would be leery of open carrying where we live in Ft. Worth. I am a renter in a suburban neighborhood. Even though I'm pretty certain I wouldn't "take a ride", I have a feeling that if I were to openly carry a pistol around on the property, that law enforcement would be called by someone. So, I just stick with concealed means concealed. Now, carrying an uncased long gun out to my truck to go the range, I've done that multiple times, no big deal.

As is your right. In my neighborhood I've got 2 DPS officers, 3 Collin County Constables, and 2 local police officers (and that's just those I know about!). The most "trouble" I've ever had was when one of the DPS guys came over while I was working in my yard and told me that Kimbers are unreliable. His opinion changed when I let him shoot it at GPSR. Now he's looking at getting his own!