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The Oldgringo said that...
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That sounds about right. I dont think id tell a cop "im not in the right mental state" LOLChemist45 wrote:Massad Ayoob has discussed this topic at length.
His advice is to be the one who calls 911 and tell them as little as possible: There's been a shooting, the location, send and ambulance etc.
Once the police arrive he recommends you say something to the effect of:
"Officer, I'm the one who called you.
He attacked me. There is his gun, knife, club etc.
There are the shell casings.
Those people are witnesses."
While pointing all these things out.
He then recommends you say something along the lines of "I'm sure you understand I want to wait for my lawyer to arrive before I give my full statement."
His point is to help the officers find the evidence and witnesses that will help your case but not to incriminate yourself.
Seems like good advice.
But if reincarnation does exist and you are a reincarnation of yourself now, you would never have known it :Pisrael67 wrote:Don't talk to me about Conrad, dude .. we had to do Lord Jim for our teacher training. I hated him !!seamusTX wrote:Joseph Conrad was not a native speaker of English and did not publish anything until he was more than 40 years old. He is one of the most respected and widely read authors of his period.![]()
Not quite true. For example, my dad was in the RAF during WWII. If I wanted to follow in his footsteps, nothing (short of an intervention by The Almighty to warp and space and time continuum, move me back to when I was 21 and give me perfect eyesight) could conceivably make that possible.seamusTX wrote: Anything is possible if you don't write yourself off. Nothing is possible if you do.![]()
Nah. S'too late. I'll just content myself with getting to a reasonably ripe old age, and then hope that reincarnation exists, and I can make a better job of the next life, than I did of this one.
I won't holster my sidearm until I am sure the situation is safe. If I had a reason to draw and fire, I probably won't feel like the situation is safe until the responding LEO show up. And I for one, will not be waving anything around when the LEO show up; Weapon, CHL or otherwise.Purplehood wrote:On the topic of talking/not-talking to LEO's after a shoot...
Do you holster your weapon and wave your CHL over your head? In an LEO's mind would that help defuse the situation prior to the questioning?
Kerbouchard wrote:I won't holster my sidearm until I am sure the situation is safe. If I had a reason to draw and fire, I probably won't feel like the situation is safe until the responding LEO show up....Purplehood wrote:On the topic of talking/not-talking to LEO's after a shoot...
Do you holster your weapon and wave your CHL over your head? In an LEO's mind would that help defuse the situation prior to the questioning?
Keep your mouth shut.
I guess it depends on the scenerio and the situation. But I figure most people wouldn't stop shooting until it was safe. If we shoot the target until there is no more threat we might as well holster it up.Kerbouchard wrote: I won't holster my sidearm until I am sure the situation is safe. If I had a reason to draw and fire, I probably won't feel like the situation is safe until the responding LEO show up. And I for one, will not be waving anything around when the LEO show up; Weapon, CHL or otherwise.
Oldgringo wrote:Folk,
Hope and pray that you never have to usethat concealed handgun you're licensed to carry.
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The Oldgringo said that...
thats the problem with the system i should not have to pay when i have done nothing wrongOldgringo wrote:Oldgringo wrote:Folk,
Hope and pray that you never have to usethat concealed handgun you're licensed to carry.
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The Oldgringo said that...
For all of the aforesaid reasons..."Hope and pray that you never have to use that concealed handgun you're licensed to carry." Even if you're adjudged to have acted correctly, can you afford the legal bills...and there will be legal bills.
If a BG is down from your defensive fire, stating that "I see one assailant down and apparently in need of medical attention" is accurate and provides useful dispatch information without going into speculation.Kerbouchard wrote: You do bring up an interesting point, and I'm glad you did. One of the things people generally say they will tell the 911 operator is that the BG is neutralized/stopped and that the situation is safe. Or they will want to help out by saying the BG was alone. Or that the BG is dead and there is nothing to worry about.
Of course, you are correct. If you are among the .01% of the population that can give that, and only that, information, than by all means you should. How many other people do you think are going to follow up with "I didn't want to shoot him" or "Oh, my God, I can't believe I killed him"?Excaliber wrote:If a BG is down from your defensive fire, stating that "I see one assailant down and apparently in need of medical attention" is accurate and provides useful dispatch information without going into speculation.Kerbouchard wrote: You do bring up an interesting point, and I'm glad you did. One of the things people generally say they will tell the 911 operator is that the BG is neutralized/stopped and that the situation is safe. Or they will want to help out by saying the BG was alone. Or that the BG is dead and there is nothing to worry about.
The system ain't rigged for your benefit. It's for the good of attorneys on both sides. A never ending slot machine that always pays off somebody.thats the problem with the system i should not have to pay when i have done nothing wrong