Nearly used my weapon tonight.

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Re: Nearly used my weapon tonight.

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You are right about those who are itching to shoot a bad guy and become fantasy heroes in their own minds don't have any clue of what such an act is like. Taking a life sounds and feels much better on a diet of action movies, beer, and potato chips consumed on the couch in front of the flat screen than it does on a diet of doing it for real in filthy abandoned buildings or the deserts of foreign countries. My observation over the years is that eagerness to have this experience is the unmistakable mark of someone who never has.
Thank you Excalibur I could not have said it better myself, everything you said :iagree: with wholeheartedly. I think I will be looking for some new reading material as well, thanks for the suggestion.
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xdfanatic wrote:... As I continue to rerun the chain of events in my head I continue to ask myself what it was that made me look like an easy target?... Thanks again everyone and in the words of my old sergeant "stay alert, stay alive!"
My thought is that you had gotten task fixated when the BG ambushed you. He could predict your actions, like timing when you put the baskit in the back seat, that would advantage him the most and you the least. You did very well. I don't think people appreciate how dynamic a situation this is.

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Wow XD! Glad you are still here to tell the story. You did well. I'm not sure I would have handled it the same way and hope I never find out.
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Ditto that.
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Excaliber wrote:Taking a life sounds and feels much better on a diet of action movies, beer, and potato chips consumed on the couch in front of the flat screen than it does on a diet of doing it for real in filthy abandoned buildings or the deserts of foreign countries. My observation over the years is that eagerness to have this experience is the unmistakable mark of someone who never has.
Eagerness is one thing and I agree with you there. Willingness is another thing entirely. Anyone who owns a gun for self defense should be willing to shoot a goblin, or they should reconsider their choice of tools.

I also think some trainers do their students a disservice by overemphasizing the possible negative psychological effects of a critical incident (or whatever the buzz word is these days). It's one thing to make someone aware of possible effects, so they can cope (or seek help) if they occur. It's another thing entirely to condition someone to suffer all those symptoms.

I was fortunate, in some respects, to not know. After the adrenaline hangover, my reaction was more Cooper than Ayoob (although I had not met either back then). Colors were brighter. Food tasted better. Beer was colder and women warmer. I did have occasional nightmares later, but talking helped and they eventually stopped.

It's not something I'm eager to do again, but in my experience it's much better than being a victim.
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snorri wrote:
Excaliber wrote:Taking a life sounds and feels much better on a diet of action movies, beer, and potato chips consumed on the couch in front of the flat screen than it does on a diet of doing it for real in filthy abandoned buildings or the deserts of foreign countries. My observation over the years is that eagerness to have this experience is the unmistakable mark of someone who never has.
Eagerness is one thing and I agree with you there. Willingness is another thing entirely. Anyone who owns a gun for self defense should be willing to shoot a goblin, or they should reconsider their choice of tools.

I also think some trainers do their students a disservice by overemphasizing the possible negative psychological effects of a critical incident (or whatever the buzz word is these days). It's one thing to make someone aware of possible effects, so they can cope (or seek help) if they occur. It's another thing entirely to condition someone to suffer all those symptoms.

I was fortunate, in some respects, to not know. After the adrenaline hangover, my reaction was more Cooper than Ayoob (although I had not met either back then). Colors were brighter. Food tasted better. Beer was colder and women warmer. I did have occasional nightmares later, but talking helped and they eventually stopped.

It's not something I'm eager to do again, but in my experience it's much better than being a victim.
I agree with you on the distinction between willingness and eagerness. Eagerness is unhealthy, willingness is not. Warriors generally regard someone who has taken life and is eager to do so again as in need of a checkup from the neckup.

I also agree that awareness of potential aftereffects is a good thing, but dwelling on them is not. They are by no means universal, just like the various altered states of consciousness during a high stress incident don't happen to everyone. The officers I worked with who had to take a life in the line of duty did not suffer any long term aftereffects from their very well justified actions, and neither do many others.

Your heightened experience of life after your incident is a common post incident effect as well, but a generally enjoyable and beneficial one. There are others too, including a strong urge to have sex shortly after the incident. These may be an instinctive drive to celebrate survival, and the celebration is well deserved.
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03Lightningrocks wrote:That was one of my good pics. I am going for the sympathy angle with the mods. If I say something stupid it might save me from being banned. :smilelol5:

No way a person would ban a guy in a neck brace. :mrgreen:
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BTW, good to see you back on the forum. Hope you are doing better.
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Crossfire wrote:
03Lightningrocks wrote:That was one of my good pics. I am going for the sympathy angle with the mods. If I say something stupid it might save me from being banned. :smilelol5:

No way a person would ban a guy in a neck brace. :mrgreen:
Really? You should know us better than that! LOL!

BTW, good to see you back on the forum. Hope you are doing better.
That neck brace has to come off sooner or later. :smash:

P.S. I'm also glad to see you back....Get well soon. ;-)
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Crossfire wrote:
03Lightningrocks wrote:That was one of my good pics. I am going for the sympathy angle with the mods. If I say something stupid it might save me from being banned. :smilelol5:

No way a person would ban a guy in a neck brace. :mrgreen:
Really? You should know us better than that! LOL!

BTW, good to see you back on the forum. Hope you are doing better.
Thank You..... it was quite a bit more pqainful than the Doctors let on. I can already tell I am gaining use of my right hand and arm back. It seems to have worked. Thanks for your words of encouragement before the surgery. Sometimes it's the simple things we do and say that help others. I hope your situation is getting better. Six more weeks and the neck brace comes off and my excuse for not working out is gone. :tiphat:
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