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Wife driving and stopped, any reason I should show my CHL
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:17 pm
by MJR
If wife is driving and I am in front seat. She is stopped and ask to show lic/ins. I have gun in car. Any reason I should show my CHL?
Thank you
Re: Wife driving and stopped, any reason I should show my CHL
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:19 pm
by cmgee67
Nope I wouldn't unless asked for ID. She's the one getting stopped for the infraction not you.
Re: Wife driving and stopped, any reason I should show my CHL
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:30 pm
by carlson1
Re: Wife driving and stopped, any reason I should show my CHL
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:44 pm
by Soccerdad1995
I agree with the above posters. If you are asked for ID, then hand over your LTC (DL would be optional). Otherwise, just keep it in your wallet.
Re: Wife driving and stopped, any reason I should show my CHL
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 5:32 pm
by Liberty
You are required to present your CHL whenever you asked to present your license or ID when carrying. To present either your licence or CHL is not only not required but inappropriate.
Re: Wife driving and stopped, any reason I should show my CHL
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 5:48 pm
by bblhd672
FWIW- My instructor said if you are passenger and the LEO asks you how you're doing then you are required to present LTC.
Re: Wife driving and stopped, any reason I should show my CHL
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 6:05 pm
by howdy
What the law says
"GC §411.205. REQUIREMENT TO DISPLAY LICENSE.
If a license holder is carrying a handgun on or about the license holder’s person
when a magistrate or a peace officer demands that the license holder display
identification, the license holder shall display both the license holder’s driver’s
license or identification certificate issued by the department and the license
holder’s handgun license."
Re: Wife driving and stopped, any reason I should show my CHL
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 6:27 pm
by bayou

If the officer asks how you're doing respond Very well sir/ma'am politely and leave it at that.
Re: Wife driving and stopped, any reason I should show my CHL
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 6:37 pm
by The Wall
Wait for them to ask for ID as explained above. I'm thinking if they ask you to step out of the car you might want to let them know before you exit the vehicle.
Re: Wife driving and stopped, any reason I should show my CHL
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 7:52 pm
by nightmare69
bblhd672 wrote:FWIW- My instructor said if you are passenger and the LEO asks you how you're doing then you are required to present LTC.
If he asks you for ID only then do you have to submit your LTC. Unless you commit a violation like not wearing your seatbelt you can polity refuse to ID.
Re: Wife driving and stopped, any reason I should show my CHL
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 7:55 pm
by casp625
nightmare69 wrote:bblhd672 wrote:FWIW- My instructor said if you are passenger and the LEO asks you how you're doing then you are required to present LTC.
If he asks you for ID only then do you have to submit your LTC. Unless you commit a violation like not wearing your seatbelt you can polity refuse to ID.
Almost every episode of
Cops shows how well refusing to ID works out for a passenger

Re: Wife driving and stopped, any reason I should show my CHL
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 7:58 pm
by nightmare69
casp625 wrote:nightmare69 wrote:bblhd672 wrote:FWIW- My instructor said if you are passenger and the LEO asks you how you're doing then you are required to present LTC.
If he asks you for ID only then do you have to submit your LTC. Unless you commit a violation like not wearing your seatbelt you can polity refuse to ID.
Almost every episode of
Cops shows how well refusing to ID works out for a passenger

I'm a LEO and I've asked for ID and had passengers refuse. I'll ask why they are refusing and most just say because I can. It's well within your rights to do so and I leave it at that. I'm sure some had warrants but they will get caught eventually.
Re: Wife driving and stopped, any reason I should show my CHL
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:00 pm
by ScottDLS
Only I think this is "confirmation bias" in that it wouldn't make a very interesting episode if the mullet coiffed passenger didn't fumble with a crack stem and an eightball before falling out of the car...

Re: Wife driving and stopped, any reason I should show my CHL
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 9:18 pm
by TreyHouston
I have been saying it for years!!! Barcodes on everyones forehead! Why do i get such resistance on this??

Re: Wife driving and stopped, any reason I should show my CHL
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:26 am
by mr1337
casp625 wrote:nightmare69 wrote:bblhd672 wrote:FWIW- My instructor said if you are passenger and the LEO asks you how you're doing then you are required to present LTC.
If he asks you for ID only then do you have to submit your LTC. Unless you commit a violation like not wearing your seatbelt you can polity refuse to ID.
Almost every episode of
Cops shows how well refusing to ID works out for a passenger

Actually it works out worse for some people when they willfully ID when they had no obligation to.
Same goes for them not keeping their mouth shut when officers are questioning them.
But of course, the ones who flex their rights by refusing to ID (as passenger) or remain silent don't make good TV so they are never shown.
I've see a lot of episodes of cops and not once have I seen someone lawfully refuse to ID. I'm sure it happens, but they don't show it on TV, probably because it doesn't often lead to an arrest or drama enough for TV.