All is well. The evening was a private retirement party for an individual that we presented with a very nice lever-action rifle. I wanted to be within the gun laws, which explains all of my questions.
The funny part was going through the door with the box, which I had folded over the manufacturer ...
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- Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:22 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: 51% Sign Wording - "Weapon" versus concealed handgun
- Replies: 27
- Views: 4568
- Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:16 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: 51% Sign Wording - "Weapon" versus concealed handgun
- Replies: 27
- Views: 4568
Re: 51% Sign Wording - "Weapon" versus concealed handgun
Ok guys, now I finally get it. All it took was a few hits over the head.
Thank you very much for your help!
Thank you very much for your help!
- Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:47 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: 51% Sign Wording - "Weapon" versus concealed handgun
- Replies: 27
- Views: 4568
Re: 51% Sign Wording - "Weapon" versus concealed handgun
And my apologies here, guys, if I'm coming across like I'm challenging everything. I am literally trying to understand the 51% signage, and how it applies to rifles.
- Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:44 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: 51% Sign Wording - "Weapon" versus concealed handgun
- Replies: 27
- Views: 4568
Re: 51% Sign Wording - "Weapon" versus concealed handgun
jbarn is correct. My post may not have been clear. The 51% sign violator would be charged under 46.02 which is illegal weapon.
However, as I stated, a sign that says specifies the statute and type of weapon ionly relates to that weapon (i.e. 30.06 and concealed handgun). Illegal weapons are ...
- Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:55 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: 51% Sign Wording - "Weapon" versus concealed handgun
- Replies: 27
- Views: 4568
Re: 51% Sign Wording - "Weapon" versus concealed handgun
You are off track. Go back and read my first post in this thread. When used in the TABC signs, "weapon" refers to those listed in penal code 46.02, Unlawful Carrying Weapons. Handguns, Illegal Knives and Clubs.
I was responding to Keith B saying that TPC 46 under weapons is where general ...
- Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:46 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: 51% Sign Wording - "Weapon" versus concealed handgun
- Replies: 27
- Views: 4568
Re: 51% Sign Wording - "Weapon" versus concealed handgun
If the sign or statute references 'weapon', then it applies to all 'weapons' that are defined in TPC 46 'Weapons'. http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/PE/htm/PE.46.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
In the case of the 51% sign, it specifically states 'weapon', licensed or ...
In the case of the 51% sign, it specifically states 'weapon', licensed or ...
- Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:41 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: 51% Sign Wording - "Weapon" versus concealed handgun
- Replies: 27
- Views: 4568
Re: 51% Sign Wording - "Weapon" versus concealed handgun
The rifle law is not in the Penal Code, it is in the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Code.
Regarding weapon and handgun, I don't know how to explain it any better. It is not vague at all.
So does the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Code supersede the Penal Code? Does one trump the other? Do police officers ...
- Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:28 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: 51% Sign Wording - "Weapon" versus concealed handgun
- Replies: 27
- Views: 4568
Re: 51% Sign Wording - "Weapon" versus concealed handgun
Also, while not an offense for the person with the rifle, a TABC licensee commits an offense if he allows a firearm to be on the premises.
I've looked everywhere and cannot find anything that indicates that. Again, there is an amazing amount of vagueness in what I've read where the Penal Code ...
I've looked everywhere and cannot find anything that indicates that. Again, there is an amazing amount of vagueness in what I've read where the Penal Code ...
- Mon Mar 24, 2014 11:30 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: 51% Sign Wording - "Weapon" versus concealed handgun
- Replies: 27
- Views: 4568
Re: 51% Sign Wording - "Weapon" versus concealed handgun
Correct. Those are the weapons covered by 46.02. UNLAWFUL CARRYING WEAPONS.
So carrying an rifle (unloaded, just to keep it simple) is not regulated by any laws in TX? I couldn't find it under 30.06 either.
It seems really odd that the signs aren't clearer, and even more bizarre that even the ...
So carrying an rifle (unloaded, just to keep it simple) is not regulated by any laws in TX? I couldn't find it under 30.06 either.
It seems really odd that the signs aren't clearer, and even more bizarre that even the ...
- Mon Mar 24, 2014 11:15 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: 51% Sign Wording - "Weapon" versus concealed handgun
- Replies: 27
- Views: 4568
Re: 51% Sign Wording - "Weapon" versus concealed handgun
Texas Penal Code 46.02(c) :
46.02 (c) An offense under this section is a felony of the third
degree if the offense is committed on any premises licensed or
issued a permit by this state for the sale of alcoholic beverages.
That section only talks about handguns, illegal knives, and clubs ...
46.02 (c) An offense under this section is a felony of the third
degree if the offense is committed on any premises licensed or
issued a permit by this state for the sale of alcoholic beverages.
That section only talks about handguns, illegal knives, and clubs ...
- Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:54 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: 51% Sign Wording - "Weapon" versus concealed handgun
- Replies: 27
- Views: 4568
51% Sign Wording - "Weapon" versus concealed handgun
I'm confused about the official 51% sign working, as supplied by the TABC (see link below). They use the word weapon whereas the Texas Penal Code specifically talks about a "concealed handgun". These are two vastly different terms. It doesn't even say "concealed weapon", just "weapon". Yet the law ...