TCU decides to opt out of SB11

[C-dub]

In this case, I think that every student that has to leave a classroom after dark to go to their vehicle should call campus security or campus police for an escort.

[jb2012]

Glad that I didn't have the money to go to TCU!! Haha

[K5GU]

I don't know how each member voted but the people on the TCU Board listed on the following link who voted to opt out of SB 11 "Campus Carry" will be the people who will carry the burden of sorrow in the next incident on campus that could have been prevented by an armed citizen.
http://www.chancellor.tcu.edu/trustees.asp

Kathy Cavins-Tull's remark in this news event article saying, “It was quite clear that no matter which side of the issue each person felt was best, all cared deeply about the safety of the community.”, is a sample of their reverse thinking.
http://newsevents.tcu.edu/stories/tcus- ... l-meeting/

[jkurtz]

Two days after TCU decided to opt out of campus carry I received another email, this time reporting a campus crime.

CRIME ALERT
A female student reported to the Texas Christian University Police Department that she was sexually assaulted on November 15, 2015 at an on campus residence hall by a known acquaintance.
Personal Safety Tips:

If you are sexually assaulted:
Call the police and seek medical attention immediately. Time is critical in such cases. On campus call 817-257-7777 and off campus dial 911.

Medical care and sexual assault exams may be obtained at John Peter Smith Hospital and Texas Health Harris Methodist Hospital. TCU Police are available to take you to the hospital, but you can go without the police.
Seek counseling from TCU Mental Health and Counseling Center at 817-257-7863.

Other Safety Tips:

While assaults by strangers do occur, most sexual assaults are perpetrated by people known to the survivor. Sexual assault includes any conduct that involves non-consensual sexual penetration or non-consensual personal contact of a sexual nature. Sexual assault is a crime.

Sexual Assault is never the fault of the survivor. While nothing is failsafe, here are some suggestions everyone may want to consider:

Make sure you have consent. Consent is a clear and freely given yes, not the absence of no.
People who are incapacitated by alcohol or drugs cannot give consent.
Practice being assertive about your boundaries.
Trust your instincts. If you feel uneasy or sense something is wrong, call for assistance.

Bystanders should try to be aware of their surroundings, and if there are any signs of a person in distress, bystanders should make themselves known and offer assistance if it is safe to do so, and/or seek immediate help from the police or security personnel.

For emergencies or if you see a crime being committed,
ON Campus – TCU Police 817-257-7777
Off campus – 911

The Campus Life office in Sadler Hall, 817-257-7926, has resources and support services to assist any student that is a victim of a crime.



Detective Vicki Lawson
Texas Christian University Police Department
817-257-7050

I am interested to see how campus crime changes at public universities that adhere to the intent of the law in contrast to the various private schools that choose to opt out, such as TCU.

[VMI77]

I don't know how each member voted but the people on the TCU Board listed on the following link who voted to opt out of SB 11 "Campus Carry" will be the people who will carry the burden of sorrow in the next incident on campus that could have been prevented by an armed citizen.
http://www.chancellor.tcu.edu/trustees.asp

Kathy Cavins-Tull's remark in this news event article saying, “It was quite clear that no matter which side of the issue each person felt was best, all cared deeply about the safety of the community.”, is a sample of their reverse thinking.
http://newsevents.tcu.edu/stories/tcus- ... l-meeting/

I think you mistake the mentality of our enemies by crediting them with the same concerns you have. They won't be sorrowful at all...they'll revel in the deaths and double down on their anti-gun theology.

[VMI77]

Two days after TCU decided to opt out of campus carry I received another email, this time reporting a campus crime.

CRIME ALERT
A female student reported to the Texas Christian University Police Department that she was sexually assaulted on November 15, 2015 at an on campus residence hall by a known acquaintance.
Personal Safety Tips:

If you are sexually assaulted:
Call the police and seek medical attention immediately. Time is critical in such cases. On campus call 817-257-7777 and off campus dial 911.

Medical care and sexual assault exams may be obtained at John Peter Smith Hospital and Texas Health Harris Methodist Hospital. TCU Police are available to take you to the hospital, but you can go without the police.
Seek counseling from TCU Mental Health and Counseling Center at 817-257-7863.

Other Safety Tips:

While assaults by strangers do occur, most sexual assaults are perpetrated by people known to the survivor. Sexual assault includes any conduct that involves non-consensual sexual penetration or non-consensual personal contact of a sexual nature. Sexual assault is a crime.

Sexual Assault is never the fault of the survivor. While nothing is failsafe, here are some suggestions everyone may want to consider:

Make sure you have consent. Consent is a clear and freely given yes, not the absence of no.
People who are incapacitated by alcohol or drugs cannot give consent.
Practice being assertive about your boundaries.
Trust your instincts. If you feel uneasy or sense something is wrong, call for assistance.

Bystanders should try to be aware of their surroundings, and if there are any signs of a person in distress, bystanders should make themselves known and offer assistance if it is safe to do so, and/or seek immediate help from the police or security personnel.

For emergencies or if you see a crime being committed,
ON Campus – TCU Police 817-257-7777
Off campus – 911

The Campus Life office in Sadler Hall, 817-257-7926, has resources and support services to assist any student that is a victim of a crime.



Detective Vicki Lawson
Texas Christian University Police Department
817-257-7050

I am interested to see how campus crime changes at public universities that adhere to the intent of the law in contrast to the various private schools that choose to opt out, such as TCU.

Clearly the answer to such crimes is not allowing women to defend themselves with guns but classes instructing men not to sexually assault women.

[stingeragent]

I may have to re-read the law again, but how can they "opt out" entirely. I thought the law stated they could make some areas off limits but not the entire campus?

Edit: Specifically this " The president or officer may not establish provisions
that generally prohibit or have the effect of generally prohibiting
license holders from carrying concealed handguns on the campus of
the institution."

[cprems]

TCU is a private university! They re not required to follow the law. However, I believe that IF they receive State funds, then, IMHO, all bets are off and they should have to allow LTC in their classrooms.

As it currently stands, they're following the law. I believe the next legislative run needs to address this.

[joelamosobadiah]

I don't know how each member voted but the people on the TCU Board listed on the following link who voted to opt out of SB 11 "Campus Carry" will be the people who will carry the burden of sorrow in the next incident on campus that could have been prevented by an armed citizen.
http://www.chancellor.tcu.edu/trustees.asp

Kathy Cavins-Tull's remark in this news event article saying, “It was quite clear that no matter which side of the issue each person felt was best, all cared deeply about the safety of the community.”, is a sample of their reverse thinking.
http://newsevents.tcu.edu/stories/tcus- ... l-meeting/

I think you mistake the mentality of our enemies by crediting them with the same concerns you have. They won't be sorrowful at all...they'll revel in the deaths and double down on their anti-gun theology.

I think you're overstating the position of the majority of individuals that subscribe to the anti-gun beliefs. Most of them do truly believe they have the safety of themselves and the students in mind and are just very mistaken and misguided in their ideology. They will be very sorrowful if an incident happens on campus. And resolve themselves to further restrict firearms to prevent the next such incident since they obviously didn't do enough...

[TexasCajun]

I don't know how each member voted but the people on the TCU Board listed on the following link who voted to opt out of SB 11 "Campus Carry" will be the people who will carry the burden of sorrow in the next incident on campus that could have been prevented by an armed citizen.
http://www.chancellor.tcu.edu/trustees.asp

Kathy Cavins-Tull's remark in this news event article saying, “It was quite clear that no matter which side of the issue each person felt was best, all cared deeply about the safety of the community.”, is a sample of their reverse thinking.
http://newsevents.tcu.edu/stories/tcus- ... l-meeting/

I think you mistake the mentality of our enemies by crediting them with the same concerns you have. They won't be sorrowful at all...they'll revel in the deaths and double down on their anti-gun theology.

I think you're overstating the position of the majority of individuals that subscribe to the anti-gun beliefs. Most of them do truly believe they have the safety of themselves and the students in mind and are just very mistaken and misguided in their ideology. They will be very sorrowful if an incident happens on campus. And resolve themselves to further restrict firearms to prevent the next such incident since they obviously didn't do enough...

Their solution is to "do something". In their minds, they have "done something". Nevermind that the something that they've done will not have the intended effect (safer campus), and will most likely have the direct opposite effect (less safe campus). When another event happens, they'll "do something" else that will most likely have the same opposite effect of what they state that they're trying to achieve. This will go on and on until clearer heads are able to prevail - which isn't likely to be any time soon.