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We traveled to another state this week. Usually I carry my EDC in an OWB pancake holster, on jeans that fit, with an un-ticket t-shirt.

Well.....I left my pancake holster at home, and have had to carry IWB...and it was a booger-bear. I can tell you, OWB and (come 1/1) not worrying about exposure is the only way to go.

So, like many, I'm happy OC is here (1/1), and I may/may not OC, but I am 100% sure that the "worry" being gone about a t-shirt un-tucking/exposure will give me huge peace of mind.

Merry Christmas everyone!
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I agree that OC is far more comfortable than IWB; but openly displaying a firearm on the grounds of my apartment is a violation of my lease so I'll have to continue to carry concealed. :rules:
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Are you in texas? Fairly certain they cant legally tell you that you cant display a firearm going from your car to your apt. Thats a common area.
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tiger1279 wrote:I agree that OC is far more comfortable than IWB; but openly displaying a firearm on the grounds of my apartment is a violation of my lease so I'll have to continue to carry concealed. :rules:
I learned recently that an apartment complex (landlord) cannot restrict keeping guns inside your apartment, I would think that it would go for the property leading to and from your vehicle as well. Clubhouses/offices are a different story however.
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tiger1279 wrote:I agree that OC is far more comfortable than IWB; but openly displaying a firearm on the grounds of my apartment is a violation of my lease so I'll have to continue to carry concealed. :rules:
If you ever decide you want to break your lease, all you have to do is openly carry a rifle to your car parked in front of the office.
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tiger1279 wrote:I agree that OC is far more comfortable than IWB; but openly displaying a firearm on the grounds of my apartment is a violation of my lease so I'll have to continue to carry concealed. :rules:
That's illegal, civilly.
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stingeragent wrote:Are you in texas? Fairly certain they cant legally tell you that you cant display a firearm going from your car to your apt. Thats a common area.
I disagree. The MPA covers relief from UCW to or from the vehicle but 30.06 could still apply. I would think it would need to be in a locked container so that it is not on or about your person if the parking lot was 30.06 posted.something to think about.
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I thought parking lots couldnt be posted
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stingeragent wrote:I thought parking lots couldnt be posted
Private parking lots can be posted.
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I live in Houston. I discussed this issue with my manager. According to her, they use the standard lease put out by the Texas Apartment Association. I'll quote the relevant statement: "discharging a firearm in the apartment community or displaying or possessing a gun, knife, or other weapon in the common area in a way that may alarm others." This statement is part of the Prohibited Conduct paragraph. She said I may have a gun in my apartment; but carrying it openly outside my apartment would be a violation of my lease. The way I read the lease it would not prohibit me from carrying concealed outside my apartment since carrying concealed is hardly going to alarm others. That is what I have been doing and will continue to do so. If you live in an apartment in Texas you probably have the same statement in your lease since this is a standard lease used by all apartments who belong to the Texas Apartment Association. I'm not a lawyer and I don't know what the legal limitations are on this.
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HOA's and apartment complexes can't tell you that you can't carry, however they can tell you how you can carry. ie, concealed or not. Thus, many HOA's are posting 30.07's
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Here's my question then completely unrelated to open carry. If I live in an apartment, and want to go hunting this weekend, how am I supposed to get the rifle from my apartment to my car? Stick it down my pants leg? Between apartments and HOA, they are all a load of crap, especially the HOA's. I don't understand how someone else can tell me what to do with the property I own. Thankfully I don't live in an HOA zone but my dad does and those folks are the devil.
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stingeragent wrote:If I live in an apartment, and want to go hunting this weekend, how am I supposed to get the rifle from my apartment to my car?
Try a rifle case (available at any number of local stores). This isn't complicated.
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CleverNickname wrote:
stingeragent wrote:If I live in an apartment, and want to go hunting this weekend, how am I supposed to get the rifle from my apartment to my car?
Try a rifle case (available at any number of local stores). This isn't complicated.
Seriously. A rifle case is obvious. That wasn't my point. They should not be prohibited from moving a firearm openly from their place of residence to their vehicle. Texas law says they can legally do so, so why is an apartment complex saying they can't? That's the point.
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