Sec 9.31 and 9.32

[Scott B.]

Thanks for the 9.31 and 9.32 info.

I was fortunate to take a "how close is too close" class last week. Very eye opening.

[Ruark]

Thanks for the 9.31 and 9.32 info.

I was fortunate to take a "how close is too close" class last week. Very eye opening.

I'd love to do that, sounds fascinating.

[flowrie]

Great video, thanks for posting it!

[Charles L. Cotton]

Well, I'd love to crack my knuckles and jump into this discussion, but I'm at a disadvantage because I've never run the Tueller Drill or anything similar. That being said, my armchair-quarterback comments:

Of course there are variables, the biggest one being "knowing that it's coming." That pertains to situational awareness, of course. If you're looking down at your smartphone and a casual passer-by suddenly leaps at you from 21 feet, sure, you're probably a goner.

But if, as in the baseball bat scenario, he's already threatening you and is walking towards you, and you ALREADY have your hand on your gun, he's not going to make it to you alive, unless he's within 8-10 feet or you're slower than cold molasses. Arms relaxed, with the gun under a tropical shirt, I can easily draw and fire two shots into a sheet of typing paper @ 10 feet in about 1.25 seconds, and I don't consider myself to be "fast." If my hand is actually resting on the gun, .75 seconds or less. If somebody's walking towards me with a knife and informing me of my imminent demise, I'm not going to be standing there like a fencepost. I'll have my hand on the gun, and when he passes about the 10 foot mark, it'll be out and pointed at him. I'm sorry, but I can't see him covering 10 feet faster than I can twitch my trigger finger.

I owe you an apology and I do apologize. I re-read my post and my comment really comes across snotty and that was not my intent. I guess my zeal on this topic got the better of me. I stress it in several of my classes, especially with the women students. They seem to believe they cannot engage until the threat is literally close enough to make contact with an edged weapon or an impact weapon.

Sorry about the tenor of my post.
Chas.

[Ruark]

I guess my zeal on this topic got the better of me. I stress it in several of my classes, especially with the women students. They seem to believe they cannot engage until the threat is literally close enough to make contact with an edged weapon or an impact weapon.
Chas.

Yeah, that zeal's a bear, ain't it?

[baldeagle]

Well, I'd love to crack my knuckles and jump into this discussion, but I'm at a disadvantage because I've never run the Tueller Drill or anything similar. That being said, my armchair-quarterback comments:

Of course there are variables, the biggest one being "knowing that it's coming." That pertains to situational awareness, of course. If you're looking down at your smartphone and a casual passer-by suddenly leaps at you from 21 feet, sure, you're probably a goner.

But if, as in the baseball bat scenario, he's already threatening you and is walking towards you, and you ALREADY have your hand on your gun, he's not going to make it to you alive, unless he's within 8-10 feet or you're slower than cold molasses. Arms relaxed, with the gun under a tropical shirt, I can easily draw and fire two shots into a sheet of typing paper @ 10 feet in about 1.25 seconds, and I don't consider myself to be "fast." If my hand is actually resting on the gun, .75 seconds or less. If somebody's walking towards me with a knife and informing me of my imminent demise, I'm not going to be standing there like a fencepost. I'll have my hand on the gun, and when he passes about the 10 foot mark, it'll be out and pointed at him. I'm sorry, but I can't see him covering 10 feet faster than I can twitch my trigger finger.

You might well be able to do what you claim, but would you bet your life on it? According to the Force Science Institute, time to fire a single round when your gun is drawn and on the target and your trigger finger is on the slide is 0.54 seconds. http://www.forcescience.org/tablet/inte ... ock=tablet

That time is pretty consistent with an unaimed shot from the low ready, but a sighted shot takes 0.83 seconds. http://www.forcescience.org/officermoti ... ck=desktop

For those who think they can react quickly enough this video should be an eye opener.

[parabelum]

I'm new here so pardon the redundance, but when/where is the next seminar Charles?

[Scott B.]

Thanks for the 9.31 and 9.32 info.

I was fortunate to take a "how close is too close" class last week. Very eye opening.

I'd love to do that, sounds fascinating.

The class doesn't come up that often, but if you're within a driving distance of Conroe, I could shoot you a note when I see it on the calendar.