Should CHL/LTC Point Out Incorrect Signs, Opinions, etc.

[Solaris]

Real simple. You are a CHL/LTC.

You are conversing with someone who helps folks ban guns from businesses (lawyer, sign maker, business owner, etc).

They have misunderstandings about the law that favor CHLs (like they do not know signs are required in hospitals, amusement parks, etc). Or someone has an invalid 30.06/07 sign (size, words, etc).

Do you correct them on these errors or say nothing? Make no mistake you are not conversing with a friend, family member or innocent person misinformed, this is an dedicated anti-gun person who works everyday to ban guns.

Now I would have said SAY NOTHING.

What do you say?

[steveincowtown]

The are only two times 30.06 and 30.07 signs should be talked about.

#1> A business has posted a valid and enforceable 30.06/30.07. In this case it is ok to approach the owner/manager in a polite manner to discuss the signs, what they mean, and what you had to do to become a LTC holder.

#2> If a city/county has a unenforceable 30.06/30.07. (ie on city property that is not otherwise prohibited).

With regards to 51% signs, never approach a owner/manager if you feel they have the wrong sign posted. Simply file a complaint online with TABC. Say NOTHING with regards to 2A rights, LTC, etc. etc. Simply state that you feel the business' sign does not reflect what the TABC website shows that they should display. TABC will send someone out to fix it.

[Jusme]

The are only two times 30.06 and 30.07 signs should be talked about.

#1> A business has posted a valid and enforceable 30.06/30.07. In this case it is ok to approach the owner/manager in a polite manner to discuss the signs, what they mean, and what you had to do to become a LTC holder.

#2> If a city/county has a unenforceable 30.06/30.07. (ie on city property that is not otherwise prohibited).

With regards to 51% signs, never approach a owner/manager if you feel they have the wrong sign posted. Simply file a complaint online with TABC. Say NOTHING with regards to 2A rights, LTC, etc. etc. Simply state that you feel the business' sign does not reflect what the TABC website shows that they should display. TABC will send someone out to fix it.

What he said!!

[Breny414]

30.06, definitely not.
30.07 only, I'm tempted. We have had at least two posts where folks open carried and made a big production about signage (luby's), and another about showin LTC (Walmart). So in an attempt to head off a fracas with an OCT type, I'm tempted.

I've seen several 30.07 on letter size paper. Perfectly legible, but not valid

[Vol Texan]

30.06, definitely not.
30.07 only, I'm tempted. We have had at least two posts where folks open carried and made a big production about signage (luby's), and another about showin LTC (Walmart). So in an attempt to head off a fracas with an OCT type, I'm tempted.

I've seen several 30.07 on letter size paper. Perfectly legible, but not valid

I have to disagree with your temptation here.

Imagine a store has a perfectly invalid 30.07 sign. The owner / manager thinks it bans every kind of carry, because he/she does not fully understand the law, but is "afraid of guns, and doesn't want to get shot". It's possible that nothing you can say will change this hoplophobe's mind. So...you walk in and discuss why that sign is invalid and then you (a) receive oral notification of no carry at all - which is bad for you, or (b) educate the manager / owner enough to research the law more so they post both signs properly - which ruins a good thing for all of us.

No...the downside is too much. Best to let sleeping dogs lie.

[VoiceofReason]

Real simple. You are a CHL/LTC.

You are conversing with someone who helps folks ban guns from businesses (lawyer, sign maker, business owner, etc).

They have misunderstandings about the law that favor CHLs (like they do not know signs are required in hospitals, amusement parks, etc). Or someone has an invalid 30.06/07 sign (size, words, etc).

Do you correct them on these errors or say nothing? Make no mistake you are not conversing with a friend, family member or innocent person misinformed, this is an dedicated anti-gun person who works everyday to ban guns.

Now I would have said SAY NOTHING.

What do you say?

Why would you even talk to a “dedicated anti-gun person who works everyday to ban guns”? I wouldn’t.

[android]

My opinion is that there is no need to say anything while you're there.

If there is ANY kind of gunbuster or 30.07 either valid or invalid, but no LEGAL 30.06, that means they don't want to see your gun in their establishment. Either pull out your shirt and shut your mouth and go on in, or go someplace else. There is no need to tell them their signs are "wrong" or to say anything. They have made up their mind.

VALID 30.06 then turn around and go away or leave it in your car and come back. Call or write to let them know why they won't get any more of your money.

Invalid 30.06 - your call, no need to educate them that it's not legal.

Red sign posted when it should be blue, file complaint with TABC.

[thetexan]

30.06, definitely not.
30.07 only, I'm tempted. We have had at least two posts where folks open carried and made a big production about signage (luby's), and another about showin LTC (Walmart). So in an attempt to head off a fracas with an OCT type, I'm tempted.

I've seen several 30.07 on letter size paper. Perfectly legible, but not valid

I have to disagree with your temptation here.

Imagine a store has a perfectly invalid 30.07 sign. The owner / manager thinks it bans every kind of carry, because he/she does not fully understand the law, but is "afraid of guns, and doesn't want to get shot". It's possible that nothing you can say will change this hoplophobe's mind. So...you walk in and discuss why that sign is invalid and then you (a) receive oral notification of no carry at all - which is bad for you, or (b) educate the manager / owner enough to research the law more so they post both signs properly - which ruins a good thing for all of us.

No...the downside is too much. Best to let sleeping dogs lie.

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