This is why I choose to protect my family with a firearm....

Tim the Teacher · Post by **Tim the Teacher** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 6:51 pm

EVERYWHERE THE LAW ALLOWS!!!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20238693/

I carry even when singing in the choir......

Liberty · Post by **Liberty** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 7:11 pm

The gunman had two small-caliber handguns and one 9 mm semiautomatic machine pistol with a large magazine, McCracken said.

Sigh ....
Sounds like one of them assault pistols

Mark G26 · Post by **Mark G26** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 7:18 pm

It is apparent to me that nowhere is violence free and safe 100% of the time all the time.

KD5NRH · Post by **KD5NRH** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:33 pm

Looks like MO may be next on the list to figure out that prohibiting CCW in churches is a bad idea.

stroo · Post by **stroo** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:37 pm

I figure church is one of the most dangerous places I go every week.

Venus Pax · Post by **Venus Pax** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:22 am

stroo wrote:I figure church is one of the most dangerous places I go every week.

Why?

PAR · Post by **PAR** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:17 am

Liberty wrote:
The gunman had two small-caliber handguns and one 9 mm semiautomatic machine pistol with a large magazine, McCracken said.
Sigh ....
Sounds like one of them assault pistols

Gotta love the media and Chief Dave, bit of a misnomer - if it's a machine pistol similar to the Glock 18 shouldn't it read automatic as opposed to semiautomatic.

longtooth · Post by **longtooth** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:34 am

Above is a small church, just a little smaller than our country church. This is why we have a threat response plan that stretches from a general distrubance by a rude someone interrupting a service because they dont like what the preacher has said, through a fight, through a shooting.
We now have 4 WELL TRAINED CHL holder & 2 more coming aboard shortly. They each have an area assignment & not only are trained in where they are able to shoot if necessary but also know the 21 ft rule can work for OUR advantage.
One of the CHL holder defenders is young & fast. The 2 coming aboard as CHLers are the same & know that there has never been a return fire resolution to a church shooting yet. They each know that w/in 15 ft for sure they can tackle an armed intruder faster than they can get to a gun. We are practicing that too.

I learned a long time ago that your gun is not ALWAYS the best first reach.
LT

tex45acp · Post by **tex45acp** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:09 am

Venus Pax wrote:
stroo wrote:I figure church is one of the most dangerous places I go every week.
Why?

Think about this. We Christians believe that our Lord & Savior will protect us, and we, for the most part believe that the House of God is the most protective place to be. A terrorist, who has any intelligence will realize that not only are there a lot of folks in a small area, but those folks are not expecting the terrorist to be there. He would also feel that church folk would not be armed. The fallout on the community would be devestating.....I can hear the cries..."If we are not safe in Gods House....where are we safe".

I am very active in my church and I carry there. My first prayer is that I never have to use my CCW, but if the situation presents itself.....well!!

tex

CompVest · Post by **CompVest** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:37 am

Check this out. Charl van Wyk, â€œShooting Backâ€? Massacre at St. James Church in Cape Town, South Africa, July 25, 1993, 11 dead and 53 wounded. Amazon has it listed.

stroo · Post by **stroo** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:49 am

Venus,

I live in a pretty safe city, Coppell, work in a pretty secure environment, do not drive through high crime areas to get to work, do not go to bars or strip clubs or other high crime areas. On the other hand, every so often there are attacks on schools and churches. So I figure the two most dangerous places I go are my kids' school and church. Given the statistics on school and church shootings, I don't really believe either are very dangerous places, just more dangerous than anyplace else I go.

Venus Pax · Post by **Venus Pax** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:20 am

I guess I can understand it when you put it in those terms, stoo. I guess my thinking is that I'm armed at church, and so are a few other members. I feel that we could at least have a chance if anything were to happen there.
School is a different story.

Humanphibian · Post by **Humanphibian** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:40 pm

McCracken....HAHAHAHAHAHA

sorry....couldn't help it, I'm a little simpled out