The image they had on their website is disturbing. A Beretta 92FS SOB with no holster, finger in the finger well with the safety off. (well maybe it's a decocker model only but not many of them around).

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It was the Democrats that fought against equal rights and segregation.strogg wrote:Also, is it just me, or are leftists the racist ones? Seriously. I felt a lot of racial tension whilst in California. Here in the land of the free, it's nonexistent, to the point where I call people generally race-blind. It's so much more pleasant.
strogg wrote:
As an aside, I know one of the permit holders in California. His CCW is the most ridiculous looking thing I've ever seen. It's literally a typewritten, laminated sheet of paper cut with scissors. It looks like a six year old made it. No wait, that's impossible. Six year olds wouldn't know how to use a typewriter.
That's what my old PA license looked like but without the finger print. It certainly didn't look very official but I know quite a few other states that use similar permits.TVGuy wrote:strogg wrote:
As an aside, I know one of the permit holders in California. His CCW is the most ridiculous looking thing I've ever seen. It's literally a typewritten, laminated sheet of paper cut with scissors. It looks like a six year old made it. No wait, that's impossible. Six year olds wouldn't know how to use a typewriter.
He must have laminated it himself. My wife's uncle is a CCW in the Bay Area and he showed me his license. It was a folded up piece of paper as you describe, not laminated. Typewritten, signed, and fingerprint on it. I laughed at how simple it was.
I'm guessing you're correct that it depends on the issuing county.NNT wrote:My brother in law has a CA ccw. Same thing, simple paper with laminate (since they are done by the county maybe each is different?). Plus, he can only carry the exact gun he applied with, max 3 on the permit if I remember correctly. Not just the same model, but the same serial number... The problem he ran into is that the wait for an interview is so long that even if you get the correct leo to sign off on you, getting through the process is long.
Why spend any money on something that is so infrequently used?TVGuy wrote:I'm guessing you're correct that it depends on the issuing county.NNT wrote:My brother in law has a CA ccw. Same thing, simple paper with laminate (since they are done by the county maybe each is different?). Plus, he can only carry the exact gun he applied with, max 3 on the permit if I remember correctly. Not just the same model, but the same serial number... The problem he ran into is that the wait for an interview is so long that even if you get the correct leo to sign off on you, getting through the process is long.
For a state with so many regulations and is so anti-gun, I was shocked that the permit wasn't more official looking.
The Democrats are the party of the confederacy. The party of slavery. The Republicans, as the party of Lincoln, have always been the party of freedom and inclusion.Pawpaw wrote:It was the Democrats that fought against equal rights and segregation.strogg wrote:Also, is it just me, or are leftists the racist ones? Seriously. I felt a lot of racial tension whilst in California. Here in the land of the free, it's nonexistent, to the point where I call people generally race-blind. It's so much more pleasant.
They've always been the real racists. They get the minority vote by giving "freebies", which also serves to keep them dependent.
Democrats and RacismSoccerdad1995 wrote:The Democrats are the party of the confederacy. The party of slavery. The Republicans, as the party of Lincoln, have always been the party of freedom and inclusion.Pawpaw wrote:It was the Democrats that fought against equal rights and segregation.strogg wrote:Also, is it just me, or are leftists the racist ones? Seriously. I felt a lot of racial tension whilst in California. Here in the land of the free, it's nonexistent, to the point where I call people generally race-blind. It's so much more pleasant.
They've always been the real racists. They get the minority vote by giving "freebies", which also serves to keep them dependent.
Nothing has changed. The Dems just got really, really, good at propaganda over the last 150 years. They also learned to be more subversive about their racist beliefs. They know that the real way to keep someone down is to make them dependent on what you can give them. Drugs, money, etc., are just the tools of their strategy.
I could go on… and I’m tempted to. But I think the hideous racism that has been endemic in the Democratic Party for two centuries speaks for itself. Just remember, the next time a Democrat accuses Republicans of being racist, history’s already won the debate for you.