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Re: Boycott Benchmade

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Post by TexasJohnBoy » Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:25 am

WildBill wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:24 am
TexasJohnBoy wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:18 am

This by itself isn't anti 2a, but it brings other things about the company to light. See my previous post.

edit to add: And regardless of any of this discussion, it was a stupid PR move to have yourself photographed destroying guns as requested by the police (lawfully or otherwise) and posted to Facebook. Here conspiracy theorists -- have some material!
I understand your position. I have never owned a benchmark product. I just don't care for them, but I don't agree with calls for a boycotts such as this. :tiphat:
Full boycott is probably premature, yes. But it does shine a light on them for sure. Maybe the light will encourage them to solidify their support for the 2A a bit more.
:tiphat: to you too, sir
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Re: Boycott Benchmade

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Post by WildBill » Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:25 am

philip964 wrote:
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Oregon is looking at statewide rent controls. Its a brave new world out there.
The reason their rents are so high is they let too many Californians move there. :cool:
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Re: Boycott Benchmade

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Post by strogg » Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:24 pm

WildBill wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:25 am
philip964 wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:21 am
Oregon is looking at statewide rent controls. Its a brave new world out there.
The reason their rents are so high is they let too many Californians move there. :cool:
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Re: Boycott Benchmade

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Post by strogg » Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:29 pm

TexasJohnBoy wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:25 am
WildBill wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:24 am
TexasJohnBoy wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:18 am

This by itself isn't anti 2a, but it brings other things about the company to light. See my previous post.

edit to add: And regardless of any of this discussion, it was a stupid PR move to have yourself photographed destroying guns as requested by the police (lawfully or otherwise) and posted to Facebook. Here conspiracy theorists -- have some material!
I understand your position. I have never owned a benchmark product. I just don't care for them, but I don't agree with calls for a boycotts such as this. :tiphat:
Full boycott is probably premature, yes. But it does shine a light on them for sure. Maybe the light will encourage them to solidify their support for the 2A a bit more.
:tiphat: to you too, sir
I agree with the sentiment. I am not going to put them on my naughty list. They're doing as their asked, and to be fair, if their stuff is high enough quality to decimate firearms, that's showing something for their quality. Just because some of them donate to the Democratic party doesn't mean anything to me. Anti-2A is not the party's only stance. Until someone with authority or clout in Benchmade come out with a truly anti-2A statement, I'm not going to think of them any differently.

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Re: Boycott Benchmade

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Post by Bitter Clinger » Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:46 pm

strogg wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:29 pm
TexasJohnBoy wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:25 am
WildBill wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:24 am
TexasJohnBoy wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:18 am

This by itself isn't anti 2a, but it brings other things about the company to light. See my previous post.

edit to add: And regardless of any of this discussion, it was a stupid PR move to have yourself photographed destroying guns as requested by the police (lawfully or otherwise) and posted to Facebook. Here conspiracy theorists -- have some material!
I understand your position. I have never owned a benchmark product. I just don't care for them, but I don't agree with calls for a boycotts such as this. :tiphat:
Full boycott is probably premature, yes. But it does shine a light on them for sure. Maybe the light will encourage them to solidify their support for the 2A a bit more.
:tiphat: to you too, sir
I agree with the sentiment. I am not going to put them on my naughty list. They're doing as their asked, and to be fair, if their stuff is high enough quality to decimate firearms, that's showing something for their quality. Just because some of them donate to the Democratic party doesn't mean anything to me. Anti-2A is not the party's only stance. Until someone with authority or clout in Benchmade come out with a truly anti-2A statement, I'm not going to think of them any differently.
:iagree: Wonder how many of our "boycott Benchmade" advocates also carry an Apple iphone?
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Re: Boycott Benchmade

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Post by Flightmare » Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:51 pm

Bitter Clinger wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:46 pm
:iagree: Wonder how many of our "boycott Benchmade" advocates also carry an Apple iphone?
Or an Android phone by Google.
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Post by Bitter Clinger » Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:48 pm

Flightmare wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:51 pm
Bitter Clinger wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:46 pm
:iagree: Wonder how many of our "boycott Benchmade" advocates also carry an Apple iphone?
Or an Android phone by Google.
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Post by mrvmax » Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:02 pm

If you want to boycott them send all your Benchmade knives to me.

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Post by The Annoyed Man » Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:17 pm

Bitter Clinger wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:46 pm
strogg wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:29 pm
TexasJohnBoy wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:25 am
WildBill wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:24 am
TexasJohnBoy wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:18 am

This by itself isn't anti 2a, but it brings other things about the company to light. See my previous post.

edit to add: And regardless of any of this discussion, it was a stupid PR move to have yourself photographed destroying guns as requested by the police (lawfully or otherwise) and posted to Facebook. Here conspiracy theorists -- have some material!
I understand your position. I have never owned a benchmark product. I just don't care for them, but I don't agree with calls for a boycotts such as this. :tiphat:
Full boycott is probably premature, yes. But it does shine a light on them for sure. Maybe the light will encourage them to solidify their support for the 2A a bit more.
:tiphat: to you too, sir
I agree with the sentiment. I am not going to put them on my naughty list. They're doing as their asked, and to be fair, if their stuff is high enough quality to decimate firearms, that's showing something for their quality. Just because some of them donate to the Democratic party doesn't mean anything to me. Anti-2A is not the party's only stance. Until someone with authority or clout in Benchmade come out with a truly anti-2A statement, I'm not going to think of them any differently.
:iagree: Wonder how many of our "boycott Benchmade" advocates also carry an Apple iphone?
:lol: Touché, sir! :lol:

There are SOME things I will boycott, and other things that just aren’t worth the effort to me to boycott. And some protests just make no financial sense at all. I’m not buying anything from Dicks Sporting Goods anymore, since they’re too politically correct for modern sporting rifles...PLUS, they completely shafted bulk ammo makers who manufactured large batches of “Dick’s” head-stamped ammo for them, and then didn’t take delivery on it or pay them for it....which to me is a MUCH bigger issue than their decision not to sell MSRs. I won’t buy anything at Whole Foods for obvious reasons. I don’t own any UnderArmor wear, and won’t be buying any. It’s not that I think all boycotts are ridiculous....it’s just that I think some boycotts are ridiculous tiltings at windmills.

On the other hand, I am NOT going to throw out or destroy perfectly good material possessions I already paid for and use, because of outrage about something that a company or its employees did or didn’t do.....AFTER I bought said item. That’s just dumb. Like I said in my previous post: I’m not going to trash my S&W revolvers because S&W caved on gun locks way back when; I’m not going to chop up my Ruger pistol or rifle because Bill Ruger wrote an asinine letter about magazine capacities to Congress in 1989. I’m not going to trash my Wife’s Jeep Cherokee, because Fiat decided to have a line of jeeps manufactured in China.

Will you burn or crush your Ford or Chevy pickup truck because they were manufactured by UAW labor, whose union dues support the very worst antigun politicians of the democrat party? If you will destroy your Benchmade knife (or Igloo cooler, or UnderArmor shirts), but you won’t destroy your Ford or Chevy pickup truck in protest, then you’re a hypocrite - plain and simple. How many of you went out and had your GMC trucks put in the crusher when GM became “Government Motors” in 2009 under Obama? Please put your money where your mouths are, OR.... calm down and get some perspective.

It’s EASY to say “I’ll never buy [insert widget here] because [yada yada]”, if you never owned any of those widgets in the first place, and probably weren’t ever going to anyway. That’s not really a sacrifice, and without the sacrifice, the protest is pretty empty. And it is equally empty to say, “I’d probably destroy my [widget] if I had one”. You don’t have one, so that’s just blowing smoke. You can EASILY spend upwards of $200-$300 on a Benchmade knife. Anyone who says they’d destroy that $200-$300 knife because it was made by Benchmade? I’d say, “go ahead, but give me a minute to get a lawn chair; I want to watch this.” Time for some truth. You know you wouldn’t, so just admit it and don’t pound your chest about it. It’s not a good look.

Here’s a much simpler way to manage these things - and easier to LIVE WITH too - if you’re that upset about it......don’t buy any more of the hated company’s [widgets] going forward. I buy Wrangler jeans these days, but I still own a couple favorite pairs of Levi’s - a pretty liberal company. I’m not going to burn my Levi’s just to satisfy the outrage of the day.

Easily HALF of the country right now disagrees to one extent or another with my right to keep and bear arms. If I had to preface every purchasing decision with an investigation into the political practices of a given manufacturer’s or retail outlet’s executives, I’d never buy anything at all. I don’t know for sure exactly how many knives I actually own, but it’s probably into the teens if you include the El-Cheapos. Six of my knives are what I would call “higher quality” knives. (By “higher quality”, I mean any knife which is well crafted out of good tool steel or SV30 or better stainless, and costs in excess of $100.) FIVE of those are Benchmades, and one is a Spyderco. I love the watchmaker’s quality of the Benchmade folders. I love Benchmade’s “AXIS®” system. I like the quality of their steel. I like how they open and close like they were on ball bearings, and how they make all those little clicks, like a Colt Single Action Army being cocked. I really like Benchmade knives. I’m not going to junk the ones I have over this issue.

Funny thing is, as much as I like my Benchmades, my EDC is my left-handed Spyderco Paramilitary 2 with black G-10 scales. LOL. Not because I think it’s a better knife than the Benchmades, but because it’s a really good working knife that I don’t care too much if it gets scuffed up in my pocket, being carried every day. The Benchmades are just too pretty for scuffing. But dress me up and send me to a wedding or a funeral, and I’m carrying my Benchmade 940-2, a proper gentleman’s knife.

Now, hold up while I get ready to watch all you guys burn all your stuff....
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Re: Boycott Benchmade

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Post by proudpirate » Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:42 pm

I guess you can say when I started this topic I was quite passionate in my initial response. But after reading through everyone's responses I can agree that destroying ones own property they bought is overkill. I'm not perfect by any stretch of the imagination. But I will say this. I am not sorry for being passionate. I do truly care for each and everyone in the 2A community. With that said do I agree that Benchmade did this, no. But what I won't accept is employees making contributions to anti-gun democrats. Anyways, my two cents on the matter.


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Post by rotor » Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:48 pm

proudpirate wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:42 pm
I guess you can say when I started this topic I was quite passionate in my initial response. But after reading through everyone's responses I can agree that destroying ones own property they bought is overkill. I'm not perfect by any stretch of the imagination. But I will say this. I am not sorry for being passionate. I do truly care for each and everyone in the 2A community. With that said do I agree that Benchmade did this, no. But what I won't accept is employees making contributions to anti-gun democrats. Anyways, my two cents on the matter.
With this I guess I will have to boycott half of my family.

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Post by Liberty » Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:26 am

The Annoyed Man wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:17 pm


There are SOME things I will boycott, and other things that just aren’t worth the effort to me to boycott. And some protests just make no financial sense at all. I’m not buying anything from Dicks Sporting Goods anymore since they’re too politically correct for modern sporting rifles...PLUS, they completely shafted bulk ammo makers who manufactured large batches of “Dick’s” head-stamped ammo for them, and then didn’t take delivery on it or pay them for it....which to me is a MUCH bigger issue than their decision not to sell MSRs. I won’t buy anything at Whole Foods for obvious reasons. I don’t own any UnderArmor wear, and won’t be buying any. It’s not that I think all boycotts are ridiculous....it’s just that I think some boycotts are ridiculous tiltings at windmills.
For the most part organized boycotts are silly, our moral compasses vary. Destroying things we already own usually is pretty silly. You're not gonna change anyone's mind by tossing expensive goods.
I can honestly brag to the world that I am boycotting Niké, Dicks, or Apple. The truth is I wouldn't buy their junk anyway because I believe its all overpriced trash anyway. All the same throwing away a cheap t-shirt or ballcap of an ad promoting an NFL team makes perfect sense. I would be embarrassed to wear a logo of a kneeler.

On the other hand who hasn't giggled at the exploding Niké sneaker scandal and resulting share price crash?
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Post by jb2012 » Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:40 am

After this incident there are more companies coming under fire by the hour. Looks like EO Tech’s parent company as well as surefire donated to some pretty rough democrats including feinstein. I’m with TAM, give me a lawn chair I’m ready to watch.

Especially with the high emotion that tends to run with the gun community

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Post by warnmar10 » Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:48 am

strogg wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:29 pm
... if their stuff is high enough quality to decimate firearms, that's showing something for their quality. ...
Dew whuut?
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Post by Bitter Clinger » Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:18 am

Right. After the fact protests are without meaning or value. At my work there is a PAC that gives to both parties. I will not patronize or support the meetings, even though I am expected to being in a managerial position. There is also AIPAC that was recently denigrated by the traitorous junior Congressional rep from MN. Because AIPAC supports both parties, I avoid supporting AIPAC as well. Their argument is that we need a voice on both sides. My position is that I will only support the side that exhibits values similar to mine. YMMV.
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