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NJ sues CA company over interstate commerce

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Post by apostate » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:48 pm

https://www.nj.com/politics/2019/03/gun ... utType=amp
State Attorney General Gurbir Grewal told reporters at a press conference on Friday that such “ghost gun” dealers exploit a “loophole” in state and federal firearms laws by selling “80 percent builds” — nearly complete firearms advertised with instructions on how to complete them.
The attorney general said some of the 15 other gun dealers who no longer ship to New Jersey advise their customers to change their delivery address, arguing gun dealers were not doing enough to make sure they weren’t running afoul of state law. Grewal declined to say whether his office was investigating other sellers.

The attorney general called on Congress to pass a federal ban on such weapon kits.


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Post by OneGun » Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:07 am

Can we encourage a NJEXIT??
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Post by crazy2medic » Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:57 am

I have a question on this! If you mail a 30rd mag to a State that says they are illegal but it's legal in your State and legal to mail so Fed's aren't involved, the only person committing a "crime" is the one taking possession of it, Right??? Same as this story how can NJ sue California for something that is only illegal in NJ?
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Post by JustSomeOldGuy » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:47 am

I'm guessing that they're asserting the shipper KNEW it was illegal in NJ, and that shipping anyway constituted conspiracy?

Or not....from the article
The lawsuit accuses the company of violating New Jersey’s Consumer Fraud Act by failing to inform customers many of their products are illegal in the Garden State.
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Post by crazy2medic » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:55 am

So your required to KNOW the laws of the State your shipping to? That's a big burden to bear!
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Post by Tex1961 » Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:10 am

crazy2medic wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:55 am
So your required to KNOW the laws of the State your shipping to? That's a big burden to bear!
While I whole heartily agree with you.... The ol' "Ignorance of the law is not an excuse" thing may be argued by the courts....
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Post by Aloha Snackbar » Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:14 am

How can I commit a crime in New Jersey if I never set foot in New Jersey? How can New Jersey claim jurisdiction over a California company that follows (a) California law and (b) Federal laws regarding interstate commerce? :headscratch


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Post by crazy2medic » Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:17 pm

Aloha Snackbar wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:14 am
How can I commit a crime in New Jersey if I never set foot in New Jersey? How can New Jersey claim jurisdiction over a California company that follows (a) California law and (b) Federal laws regarding interstate commerce? :headscratch
This is fundamentally my question!
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Post by bblhd672 » Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:50 pm

Two socialist states going at each other?
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Post by pushpullpete » Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:43 pm

prearranged outcome maybe ?

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Post by twomillenium » Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:21 pm

pushpullpete wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:43 pm
prearranged outcome maybe ?

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Post by TreyHouston » Sat Mar 23, 2019 4:31 pm

crazy2medic wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:55 am
So your required to KNOW the laws of the State your shipping to? That's a big burden to bear!
There are many things illegal in many states. Naughty naughty toys and “naughty how to” books come to mind...
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Post by crazy2medic » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:32 pm

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Post by Deltaboy » Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:58 am

Crazy we need to give NEW JERSEY and New York state to Canada!
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Post by crazy2medic » Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:17 pm

Deltaboy wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:58 am
Crazy we need to give NEW JERSEY and New York state to Canada!
Sell them at bargain basement prices so they think they're getting a good deal... No Returns, No Refunds!
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