Remember your a sitting duck at a bar.

[Flightmare]

Same here. I would love a copy to share with mine.

PM Sent. Don't know why I didn't see your post until now.

[clarionite]

I shoot pool in a league. Or I should say I did before all the bars were shut down. Of all the locations I play at, I can carry at one. And that's only because the bar is attached to a hotel. The hotel, the bar, and the restaurant that are in the building are all a part of the same business. So the bar isn't a 51% location. The bartender knows me, and knows I carry. I have her blessing. I know the blessing isn't needed, but considering some people's lack of knowledge of the legalities I made sure I had a conversation with her about it before I started carrying. Just to avoid an unwanted LEO call if for some reason someone saw my EDC when I leaned over the table for a long shot. During that conversation she signed up for one of my LTC classes.

I don't understand why the 51% rule is needed at all. Striking that provision would still leave the carrying while impaired clause (which I agree with whole heartedly) and would allow people like me who aren't drinking to carry. DD's and Pool leagues would be much safer. Heck the entire establishment would be safer if the bad guys know it was likely not a GFZ in Texas.

And that is the argument I have made to several elected officials.

It'll never pass. It makes too much sense. Maybe if you asked them to add about 14 new paragraphs that muddied the waters a little more they'd be excited to do it.

[Flightmare]

I shoot pool in a league. Or I should say I did before all the bars were shut down. Of all the locations I play at, I can carry at one. And that's only because the bar is attached to a hotel. The hotel, the bar, and the restaurant that are in the building are all a part of the same business. So the bar isn't a 51% location. The bartender knows me, and knows I carry. I have her blessing. I know the blessing isn't needed, but considering some people's lack of knowledge of the legalities I made sure I had a conversation with her about it before I started carrying. Just to avoid an unwanted LEO call if for some reason someone saw my EDC when I leaned over the table for a long shot. During that conversation she signed up for one of my LTC classes.

I don't understand why the 51% rule is needed at all. Striking that provision would still leave the carrying while impaired clause (which I agree with whole heartedly) and would allow people like me who aren't drinking to carry. DD's and Pool leagues would be much safer. Heck the entire establishment would be safer if the bad guys know it was likely not a GFZ in Texas.

And that is the argument I have made to several elected officials.

It'll never pass. It makes too much sense. Maybe if you asked them to add about 14 new paragraphs that muddied the waters a little more they'd be excited to do it.

They said CHL would never pass, and then it did.
They said campus carry would never pass, and then it did.
They said open carry would never pass, and then it did.

If we resign ourselves to thinking that advocating for something is an effort in futility, it becomes a self fulfilling prophesy.
On the other hand, if we are able make effective arguments to our representatives in Austin, we CAN have an impact.

My advice to you would to not be so easily discouraged. Progress in Austin takes time, and even more so in Washington D.C. As long as we make headway in restoring liberty, that is a net positive in my opinion.

[clarionite]

I shoot pool in a league. Or I should say I did before all the bars were shut down. Of all the locations I play at, I can carry at one. And that's only because the bar is attached to a hotel. The hotel, the bar, and the restaurant that are in the building are all a part of the same business. So the bar isn't a 51% location. The bartender knows me, and knows I carry. I have her blessing. I know the blessing isn't needed, but considering some people's lack of knowledge of the legalities I made sure I had a conversation with her about it before I started carrying. Just to avoid an unwanted LEO call if for some reason someone saw my EDC when I leaned over the table for a long shot. During that conversation she signed up for one of my LTC classes.

I don't understand why the 51% rule is needed at all. Striking that provision would still leave the carrying while impaired clause (which I agree with whole heartedly) and would allow people like me who aren't drinking to carry. DD's and Pool leagues would be much safer. Heck the entire establishment would be safer if the bad guys know it was likely not a GFZ in Texas.

And that is the argument I have made to several elected officials.

It'll never pass. It makes too much sense. Maybe if you asked them to add about 14 new paragraphs that muddied the waters a little more they'd be excited to do it.

They said CHL would never pass, and then it did.
They said campus carry would never pass, and then it did.
They said open carry would never pass, and then it did.

If we resign ourselves to thinking that advocating for something is an effort in futility, it becomes a self fulfilling prophesy.
On the other hand, if we are able make effective arguments to our representatives in Austin, we CAN have an impact.

My advice to you would to not be so easily discouraged. Progress in Austin takes time, and even more so in Washington D.C. As long as we make headway in restoring liberty, that is a net positive in my opinion.

I was being sarcastic with my comment. More of a comment on how the legislative mind works than about my discouragement. I'm hard headed. Born in Arkansas, live in Texas... So I'm a bit more stubborn than the average bear. And very opinionated on issues. Every time I hear an anti talk about common sense and negotiating I say sure, lets repeal the NFA and and GCA, and just about every other restrictive gun law they've shoved down our throats and use common sense and the Constitution. There's no reason for a muffler to be legal on a car and not a firearm. Hunting would be much more safe with suppressors. SBR and shorter shotguns are great for home defense, and urban combat. The main reasons we have the 2nd to begin with. I'd love to have a Mark 19 mounted on a tripod for the upstairs balcony. And I've wanted a mini gun since I heard one for the first time.

Now repealing those would decimate my retirement plan of purchasing Automatic rifles. I figure they hold their value better than gold, and when things go south I'd much rather have the rifles than a few yellow bricks.

[Jose_in_Dallas]

Makes you almost want to do something illegal

[03Lightningrocks]

Makes you almost want to do something illegal

I have not done the bar scene in 40 years. I actually never liked the bar scene, even as a young man. Too many drunks hanging around. LOL. But to answer your comment, I have found myself thinking that maybe carrying concealed everywhere is worth the risk. It is only coming out to save my life so nobody will ever know I have it. If they do find out, well, I am still alive to face my consequences. That seems preferred to being dead and following the law. Dead is dead!

[philip964]

https://www.nationalistreview.net/2020/ ... TWN_NqTIC0

And he was smiling as he shot away.

Yes, the law needs to be changed.

[Flightmare]

Shooter was wearing a Justice for Breona Taylor tee shirt.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/louisville-b ... e-homicide

The shooting happened just before 11:30 p.m. Friday at Bungalow Joe’s, a family grill and pub on Beulah Church Road. Its owner, Joe Bishop, is now vehemently denying media reports and online rumors claiming the alleged gunman was wearing a “Justice For Breonna Taylor” T-shirt during his arrest.

In an interview with Fox News on Monday, Bishop stressed that police have not identified a motive for the shooting and that after reviewing security camera footage of the incident, he’s confident Rhynes was actually wearing a T-shirt depicting late American boxer Muhammad Ali, who was from Louisville, and former NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick.

[Flightmare]

I too have been a strong opponent of this nonsensical rule. Is there a petition we could start to get the law changed? Or is that only for bored housewives and soccer moms to get speed bumps installed in their neighborhood?

I can send you a link to the legislation I am asking state reps/senators to file this session. It's a double sided single sheet of paper when you print it out. Nice and simple, does not add a single word to the penal code. You can print it out and hand copies to your state rep and state senator asking them to file or sign onto this legislation if someone else files it.