Ammo Choice For Concealed Carry in 9 MM

[nitrogen]

How much did you pay for the Winchester Rangers?
I got a box of 50 for about $30, shipping included from Ammunitiontogo, who are based in texas. I got my ammo the next day via ups ground.

[JLaw]

At present, I carry Speer Gold Dot 115 Gr JHP's.

I thought this a good defensive round.

Now I think perhaps this is a rather anemic choice.

Am I wrong?

Suggestions?

Thanks!

I would not say that they are anemic. However my personal preference when carrying my S&W 908 is the Gold Dot 124 grn +P Short Barrell round.

JLaw

[DoubleJ]

How much did you pay for the Winchester Rangers?
I got a box of 50 for about $30, shipping included from Ammunitiontogo, who are based in texas. I got my ammo the next day via ups ground.

I just got my order yesterday. they were $20 perbox, plus $7 for shipping.

[htxred]

$20/box of rangers?? which one??

i stay loaded with rangers 127 +p+ i usually re-up once a month since big dog ammo (same people as ammunitiontogo) are at the gunshows in houston.

[DoubleJ]

which Rangers? the 147gr T-series. the ad says that it's the 3rd Gen Evil Claw of Death.

[htxred]

those that carry 147gr, do you ever have problems as far as feeding/accuracy goes?

i've read a few articles that says 147gr is big problems.

i plan on switching over to corbon 115gr +p+ in the new year.

[DoubleJ]

I ain't shot none yet. when I do, I'll letcha know.
I couldn't imagine any "accuracy issues" at 5 yds. or 10yds. beyond that, well, they'd be far enough away that I could prolly hide behind a car or sumpin.
srsly, I'll letcha know what I think whenst I get a chance.

[striker55]

Thanks for the tip. I buy most of my ammo at WalMart and Academy.

I hesitate to buy ammo of the internet because of the shipping since I am not usually home during the day. When they ship do they require a signature for delivery for ammo?

I found that Wal-Mart is a better buy because of shipping charges from internet orders.

[nitrogen]

those that carry 147gr, do you ever have problems as far as feeding/accuracy goes?

i've read a few articles that says 147gr is big problems.

i plan on switching over to corbon 115gr +p+ in the new year.

I've shot three boxes of discarded 147's in my M&P and didn't have any problems.

I perrsonally think that 124gr is the velocity/mass sweet spot, though.

[HooG19]

those that carry 147gr, do you ever have problems as far as feeding/accuracy goes?

i've read a few articles that says 147gr is big problems.

i plan on switching over to corbon 115gr +p+ in the new year.

it's like candy...my G19 keeps asking for more!

[casingpoint]

You can't have this conversation without this question being raised: Do modern hollow point bullets expand significantly when fired into the human body?

Talked with a long-time cop recently on this, and he said generally what you see is some minor, out-of-round mild deformity of the bullet, but in general not very good expansion. I think he'd seen more than a few cases.

In view of the FBI handgun wounding report emphasizing penetration over expansion in the choice of caliber, I am sometimes inclined to 115-124 grain ball ammo for SD carry in a 9 mm semi auto with am emphasis on multiple rounds fired in rapid succession, and shot placement. None of this esoteric double tap stuff. Get on target and pump half a dozen or more into a tight group. If necessary, aim at another vital area and repeat the procedure.

Actually, there's been one heck of a lot of people killed over the course of history with .32 APC hardball that struck in the right place.

[htxred]

im more inclined to shot placement over anything. pump many shots in one area could cause for empty mag.

and i dont carry extra mags. if i ever have to use my weapon, id like for it to be over in 2 shots.

[Kalrog]

and i dont carry extra mags. if i ever have to use my weapon, id like for it to be over in 2 shots.

Too bad you don't get to be the one to decide that all the time. You can do your part, but still - there is at least one other person who has something to say about it.

My thought is pick something that will be good even if it doesn't expand. Expansion is a bonus. Do not trade penetration for expansion unless you can keep your penetration in the 12"+ range. Solids are not bad, but a flat point / large meplat beats a rounded profile.

[flb_78]

I don't carry an extra mag either, but I can carry 18 rounds. If I need more than that, I'm in trouble.

I carry just plain ole Winchester White Box 115 grn JHP. 13 bux for 50 rounds at Academy.

[DoubleJ]

hey, if you're comfortable with the WWB's, that's fine.
and I understand your capacity situation, too.

but here's the deal. if you have a backup mag, and your primary mag jams, fails, maybe the gun gets dropped in the melee, or a slew of other issues, you can kick out that mag, and you're back in it.
that's just what I've read, and it seems to make sense to me. I think ol' Clint Smith's perspective was, "One is none, two is one..."

my way of thinking is that a BUG serves this same function, too.

in my perfect world, I'd carry my Beretta, and extra mag, my revolver BUG with a speed loader.
course, I don't always have pockets et al for everything!