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there's something about Mary (I don't like)

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"Anyone can turn on a small light in a dark room. Anyone!"
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"Bullying is a reality both nationally and in schools. Children need to understand that: Teasing another student in a hurtful manner is unacceptable. Threatening another student is unacceptable. Pushing, punching or other physical aggression against a student or staff member is unacceptable. Carrying, bringing, using or possessing a dangerous weapon in any school building, on school grounds, is prohibited under the law. The axiom that 'it takes a whole village to educate a child' is absolutely true. We need everyone's help to ensure that our schools are safe and respectful environments."
— Dr. Keith Pfeifer, Superintendent SAU #17 KINGSTON/NEWTON, NH


Please read how the "Who You Are Makes A Difference" Blue Ribbon Ceremony changed the life of a street smart Bully at: http://www.MakeADifference.com/BullyStory" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; .

When we tell children it's unacceptable to carry firearms and that treating each other in hurtful manners is unacceptable, but we, as the adults who have the power to make a difference, sit back and don't say or do anything about the Texas School District that now allows teachers to carry guns in school – we are agreeing by our silence and/or dismiissal of this monumental decision being made in Harrold, TX.

If anyone accepts that it's somehow justifiable to allow teachers to carry guns, we are seriously coming "at" this in a terrifying and potentially dangerous way.


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Texas School District Allows Teachers to Carry Guns in School

A small , rural school district in Texas is allowing teachers to carry guns to class and at special events beginning this fall. This could be a first in the U.S. http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5945430.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The board of the Harrold Independent School District - http://harroldisd.net/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - unanimously approved the plan and received no objections from parents, said Superintendent David Thweatt.

"We have a lock-down situation, we have cameras, but the question we had to answer is, 'What if somebody gets in? What are we going to do?" he said, according to news reports. "It's just common sense."

The 110-student district is located near Wichita Falls. The lone campus is just off a heavily trafficked highway and about 30 minutes from the nearest sheriff's office.

Ever since Columbine, school shootings have proliferated. http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/artic ... otings.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This has prompted some calls for school officials to allow students and teachers to carry legally concealed weapons into classrooms for protection.

"When the federal government started making schools gun-free zones, that's when all of these shootings started. Why would you put it out there that a group of people can't defend themselves? That's like saying 'sic 'em' to a dog," Thweatt said in the online edition of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram.

Texas Gov. Rick Perry endorsed the idea at an August 18 news conference, citing that mass shootings could have been stopped if the victims had been armed. Texas law prohibits firearms on school campuses "unless pursuant to the written regulations or written authorization of the institution." There is an exception for police.

Congress once barred guns at schools nationwide, but the U.S. Supreme Court struck the law down, although state and local communities could adopt their own laws. One newspaper editorial addresses the legal liability of teachers who might accidently shoot a student.

Harrold ISD teachers wanting to carry a gun to school will have to be certified to carry a concealed handgun in Texas and get crisis training and permission from school officials, Thweatt said. They must also agree to use ammunition that is designed to minimize the risk of ricochet in school halls.

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It's just common sense?!

Violence begets violence. Threatening violence as a means to control, rather than seeking to simply reach out and connect with compassion and affirmative attention teaches violence, abuse and negates the power of simply connecting from an "attitude free zone!"

We teach people how to treat us.

Before a child is killed by a teacher, speak up! Write the TX Governor, Rick Perry and Harrold ISD today!


I'm currently composing a personal letter and will send them my book, "Make A Difference with the Power of Connection," my purple "I Make A Difference" Wristbands and "Who I AM Makes A Difference" Blue Ribbons, and then I'll give them a follow-up call, because something MUST be done about this fear-based belief that it's OK for teachers to carry guns to control children - now - before something tragic happens!

How about you?


One person offering a peaceful solution to a troubled situation is one thing ... large numbers of people pouring out their hearts and acknowledging the teachers of Harrold ISD as people who care and as having all the heart-power necessary to make a difference in the lives of every single child in their community through teaching peaceful connecting ... now that makes a difference!

Many today are consumed with worry about the economy. The economy will do what it always does, it will eventually remedy itself... but our kids ... well that's clearly an issue that is not getting resolved with new plans like this in the making. Let's put an effort forward on something we actually CAN have an affect on.

We all make a difference every day... the question is: what difference are we making in our own communities?

Please join me in making every day a Make A Difference Day!

Reaching out ...

Mary Robinson Reynolds, M.S.
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WOW! lets see what they all say when a BG is holding them at gunpoint and they are defenseless. lets see their 'connection with compassion' get them out of that situation. or when their child is slain in a school shooting. lets see what they say then. yes violence begets violence but our 'violence' is self defense. we as CHLers dont go out flaunting our pieces...thats what we all know as brandishing and its against the law. we also dont go out looking for trouble and to just go shoot someone like gangbangers do...that too is against the law...premeditated murder or attempted murder. again violence does beget violence but we arent a gang that shoots a guy cause he flashes the wrong sign or wears the wrong colors. if we ever have to use violence, God forbid, it will end there because its self defense. it amazes me more and more the way these people think. with what happens at our schools and universities it would be as mary put it 'common sense' to arm teachers and proffessors to stop the threat. they must remember the police are only called after the crime is committed and they always arrive after the fact (not bagging on LEOs they just simply arent at the scene of the crime). the teachers and professors are their and can act immediately and hopefully stop the threat before any harm is done or shortly there after to eliminate mass casualties. the world keeps getting scarier and scarier and these criminals dont understandt 'connection with compassion' but they do understand action. as one of the fellow members put it on here 'those who live by the sword will die by those who dont.'
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Sounds like a typical moonbat to me. I bet if someone stuck a gun in her face she would offer the bg milk and cookies then give him/her a big hug.

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That writer spoke about a book she's pushing as part of her cause. The fear of guns sells. Logic and pro chl statictics are of no use when people fear guns more then criminals.
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It's just common sense?!

Violence begets violence. Threatening violence as a means to control, rather than seeking to simply reach out and connect with compassion and affirmative attention teaches violence, abuse and negates the power of simply connecting from an "attitude free zone!"

We teach people how to treat us.

Before a child is killed by a teacher, speak up! Write the TX Governor, Rick Perry and Harrold ISD today!

I'm currently composing a personal letter and will send them my book, "Make A Difference with the Power of Connection," my purple "I Make A Difference" Wristbands and "Who I AM Makes A Difference" Blue Ribbons, and then I'll give them a follow-up call, because something MUST be done about this fear-based belief that it's OK for teachers to carry guns to control children - now - before something tragic happens!
This person seriously believes that teachers will carry guns to control and intimidate the students?

:confused5

Wow. Just.....wow.

I really don't know what to say about that.
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Looking at her contact information, it seems she resides in New Hampshire.

Where does she come off telling those of us in Texas how we should do things? If she doesn't think teachers should carry guns in her local district in New Hampshire, then well and good. But don't tell me how to conduct business in my back yard, lady.

Whatever happened to the New Hampshire State motto: "Live free or die"?
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Violence begets violence. Threatening violence as a means to control, rather than seeking to simply reach out and connect with compassion and affirmative attention teaches violence, abuse and negates the power of simply connecting from an "attitude free zone!"
This should read...

The potential for the good to react to force from the evil, with equal or greater force, is the best deterent there can be. The ability to reach out and connect to the undesirable force with a well aimed projectile teaches those that would do harm, to go find a free victim zone.
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Anyone want to come up with an articulate counter point (that can be mildly modified if needed) so this womans email can be flooded by supporters of gun rights?
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smyrna wrote: Before a child is killed by a teacher, speak up! Write the TX Governor, Rick Perry and Harrold ISD today![/color]
I have taught for eight years. I find this offensive, and I'm sure other teachers do as well.
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Venus Pax wrote:
smyrna wrote: Before a child is killed by a teacher, speak up! Write the TX Governor, Rick Perry and Harrold ISD today![/color]
I have taught for eight years. I find this offensive, and I'm sure other teachers do as well.
It is offensive to me also, and I am not a teacher. However, I would rather have my grandchildren in a room with an armed teacher than have them totally at the mercy of some psycho. This woman needs to go back to where she came from and leave Texas alone!
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This lady's argument is very seriously flawed in so many ways it's not even funny. Her views seem to be based on her "feelings" rather than fact. Here's some of what I mean...
...Carrying, bringing, using or possessing a dangerous weapon in any school building, on school grounds, is prohibited under the law.[/color] ...
— Dr. Keith Pfeifer, Superintendent SAU #17 KINGSTON/NEWTON, NH
Evidently, Dr. Pfeifer is ignorant of the CHL laws of Texas because this statement is not entirely true in Texas if "dangerous weapon" is a concealed handgun. Notice the emphasis on "dangerous". Well, I've got news for the Dr., a pencil can be a "dangerous" weapon too. I left a sizeable chunk of lead from a #2 pencil in a bully years ago when I was in school.
When we tell children it's unacceptable to carry firearms and that treating each other in hurtful manners is unacceptable...

Why would you tell a kid this about firearms? This perpetuates the perception that firearms themselves are somehow evil and removes human responsibility from the equation. The message is, "You can't be trusted with firearms," inanimate objects devoid of souls or the ability of reason. I find this very insulting and dehumanizing to the capacities endowed to us by our Creator. Thank God he bestowed upon us the ability to reason and discern uses of firearms for both sport and self-defense.


...but we, as the adults who have the power to make a difference, sit back and don't say or do anything about the Texas School District that now allows teachers to carry guns in school – we are agreeing by our silence and/or dismiissal of this monumental decision being made in Harrold, TX.

Agreeing to what? The truth is, an ARMED responsible adult does have the power to make a difference in the event of a "Columbine".


It's just common sense?!
Violence begets violence.

Talk about dumbing down our schools. I think our schools have taken this "zero-tolerence" of fighting or violence or whatever you want to call it, too far. I call it the "wimpification" of our youth. They are taught from an early age and conditioned by our schools to always "turn the other cheek" at any cost and to not resist. In the Virginia Tech incident, I found it troubling that a whole room full of able bodied young men of 19 to 20-something years scurried out a window while their professor, an 80-something survivor of the Holocaust, had the guts to hold a door shut as the gunmen tried to breach the classroom. No doubt the professor was "cut from a different cloth" and had the will to resist while our youth let out bleats as they had been conditioned from an early age. As for "violence begets violence," Jeff Cooper once responded to this exact statement by saying, "I told him it is my earnest enveavor to see that it does. I would like very much to ensure--and in some cases I have--that any man who offers violence to his fellow citizen begets a whole lot more in return than he can enjoy."

Threatening violence as a means to control, rather than seeking to simply reach out and connect with compassion and affirmative attention teaches violence, abuse and negates the power of simply connecting from an "attitude free zone!"

This is pure rhetoric. This is a total misrepresentation of responsible concealed carry and the intent of the policy of Harrold ISD. No one is threatening anyone in an attempt to control anyone.

Before a child is killed by a teacher, speak up! Write the TX Governor, Rick Perry and Harrold ISD today!

This is an attempt to skew the issue. The truth is, kids at a school are in no more danger of someone with a CHL than they are at the mall with a CHL holder. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris were someone's children right up until they took their own lives and others with them. But, they were also cold-blooded killers. No doubt, there are parents who would be grateful had these two been stopped and THEIR children spared that day.
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Kythas wrote:Looking at her contact information, it seems she resides in New Hampshire.

Where does she come off telling those of us in Texas how we should do things? If she doesn't think teachers should carry guns in her local district in New Hampshire, then well and good. But don't tell me how to conduct business in my back yard, lady.

Whatever happened to the New Hampshire State motto: "Live free or die"?
It's perfectly legal in New Hampshire for teachers (or anyone else with a Revolver & Pistol License) to carry in NH schools.

What irony.

The freshman NH state rep who introduced a bill to ban guns from the state house was massively defeated in her primary race. Even the Democrats tread lightly when it comes to gun rights in NH.
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It is offensive to me also, and I am not a teacher.
It is offensive to me and I didn't like my teachers! :biggrinjester:
This lady's argument is very seriously flawed in so many ways it's not even funny.
She doesn't have an argument. An argument is a connected series of statements or propositions,designed to provide evidence for the truth of another statement or proposition. Her ramblings are disjointed, confused and incoherent.



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Before a child is killed by a teacher, speak up! Write the TX Governor, Rick Perry and Harrold ISD today!
I can recall an instance where having a gun handy saved lives in a school. I can think of a few more where if some one had a gun and knew how to use it, they could have potentially saved lives. I can think of no instances where a CHL had shot any of their students.
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