Grand Canyon Question

[shipwreck]

Quick question - If I took a trip to Arizona, and went to the Grand Canyon, I'm stuck with what to do with my gun, right?

You can't carry into the park, and its illegal to have it in the car, right?

[Medino]

might want to check up on that new federal law they passed

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28072607/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Oldgringo]

Here is an earlier thread on CCW's in National Parks.

http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... 60#p261395" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[ml1209]

I have been to remote national parks and that's a good place to have a gun.

[tomneal]

I was there last October.

Deb and I took the train from Williams and stayed overnight at the canyon. (The entertainers on the train carried real peace makers.)

I never noticed any metal detectors.

During a two week driving vacation through New Mexico and Arizona, I saw only two folks open carry. Both were at the gun rights policy conference in Phoenix

Your millage may vary

[ELB]

From the other thread, since this keeps popping up...

Title 36 -- Parks, Forests, and Public Property
Chapter 1 -- National Park Service
Part 2 -- Resource Protection, Public Use, and Recreation

Section 2.4 was amended by adding the following paragraph:

"(h) Not withstanding any other provision in this Chapter, persons may possess, carry, and transport concealed, loaded, and operable firearms within a national park area in accordance with the laws of the state in which the national park area, or that portion thereof, is located, except as otherwise prohibited by federal law."

Title 50 -- Wildlife and Fisheries
Chapter 1 - United States Fish and Wildlife Service, DOI
Part 27 Prohibited Acts
Subpart D Disturbing Violations: With Weapons

Section 27.42 Firearms, was amended by adding the following paragraph:

"(e) Not withstanding any other provision in this Chapter, persons may possess, carry, and transport concealed, loaded, and operable firearms within a national wildlife refuge in accordance with the laws of the state in which the wildlife refuge, or that portion thereof, is located, except as otherwise prohibited by federal law."

Here is a link to the Department of the Interior press release announcing the final rule:
http://www.doi.gov/news/08_News_Releases/120508.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Here a link to the DOI's final rule, with the language I quoted above, plus all the other governmental overhead that goes with it (25 pages of text to implement two, nearly identical, one-sentence additions the the CFR!)
http://www.doi.gov/issues/Final%20Rule.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"Otherwise prohibited by federal law" effectively means you can carry outdoors but not in the buildings.

[JJVP]

From the other thread, since this keeps popping up...

Title 36 -- Parks, Forests, and Public Property
Chapter 1 -- National Park Service
Part 2 -- Resource Protection, Public Use, and Recreation

Section 2.4 was amended by adding the following paragraph:

"(h) Not withstanding any other provision in this Chapter, persons may possess, carry, and transport concealed, loaded, and operable firearms within a national park area in accordance with the laws of the state in which the national park area, or that portion thereof, is located, except as otherwise prohibited by federal law."

Title 50 -- Wildlife and Fisheries
Chapter 1 - United States Fish and Wildlife Service, DOI
Part 27 Prohibited Acts
Subpart D Disturbing Violations: With Weapons

Section 27.42 Firearms, was amended by adding the following paragraph:

"(e) Not withstanding any other provision in this Chapter, persons may possess, carry, and transport concealed, loaded, and operable firearms within a national wildlife refuge in accordance with the laws of the state in which the wildlife refuge, or that portion thereof, is located, except as otherwise prohibited by federal law."

Here is a link to the Department of the Interior press release announcing the final rule:
http://www.doi.gov/news/08_News_Releases/120508.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Here a link to the DOI's final rule, with the language I quoted above, plus all the other governmental overhead that goes with it (25 pages of text to implement two, nearly identical, one-sentence additions the the CFR!)
http://www.doi.gov/issues/Final%20Rule.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"Otherwise prohibited by federal law" effectively means you can carry outdoors but not in the buildings.

Concealed Carry in National Parks rule was suspended by a Federal Judge. It is being appealed. "Until further notice, individuals cannot legally carry loaded, concealed firearms for personal protection in national parks and wildlife refuges."

http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Feder ... px?id=4634" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

JJVP