Kel-Tec P-11 ouch

[randomoutburst]

MoJo - of course, but the Kel-Tec has a compact polymer frame and a hell of a kick. A heavier (and larger) gun would solve most of the problem for me. It's not that I can't hold on to the Kel-Tec, it's just that it becomes increasingly difficult with increasing number of rounds fired as well as rate of fire. I can fire my hubby's guns just fine - it's just lightweight compacts I seem to have problems with.

[Oldgringo]

MoJo - of course, but the Kel-Tec has a compact polymer frame and a heck of a kick. A heavier (and larger) gun would solve most of the problem for me. It's not that I can't hold on to the Kel-Tec, it's just that it becomes increasingly difficult with increasing number of rounds fired as well as rate of fire. I can fire my hubby's guns just fine - it's just lightweight compacts I seem to have problems with.

You are not alone . A lightweight firearm will "kick" more than a heavier one.

It's simple physics: for every action there is an opposite and equal reaction - or things do not remain static (in place). In this case the reaction is recoil and the only thing to counteract it is your hand/arm strength.

Does that sound about right?

[joe817]

MoJo - of course, but the Kel-Tec has a compact polymer frame and a heck of a kick. A heavier (and larger) gun would solve most of the problem for me. It's not that I can't hold on to the Kel-Tec, it's just that it becomes increasingly difficult with increasing number of rounds fired as well as rate of fire. I can fire my hubby's guns just fine - it's just lightweight compacts I seem to have problems with.

You are not alone . A lightweight firearm will "kick" more than a heavier one.

It's simple physics: for every action there is an opposite and equal reaction - or things do not remain static (in place). In this case the reaction is recoil and the only thing to counteract it is your hand/arm strength. Does that sound about right?

Yes it sure does. That's why "heavier guns" kick less than light one's. There's always a tradeoff.

[RPB]

just a suggestion: For both my Glock 26 and my P11

1) Hogue Handall Jr. rubber slip-on grip
and
2) ammo that recoils less than the heavier 147 or 124 grain, such as:
#90250 Hornady Critical Defense® 9mm Luger 115 gr
or
#23614 Gold Dot Personal Protection 9mm Luger 115 gr

[stroo]

SPS in Carrollton put a lighter custom trigger spring in my P11. Reduced the pull down to about 6 lbs, but it still was long. SPS is the only gunsmith I have heard of taking this approach.

[Rex B]

I've had 3 P11s. It's no Kimber, but they do work.
And for my long slender hands not many pistols fit as well, especially in this size. The Kahr does not.
I've never had the slide bite me, but I've had my trigger finger get sore.
The trigger pull is most accurately described as "Staple gun".

But the one thing i always do to a P11 is add a trigger shoe. Makes all the difference in the world.
You get a much wider smooth pad for your finger. It feels like a lighter trigger pull.

[stroo]

Trigger shoes work for some people. For me, it was even worse than without. Must be something about my fingers.

[Rex B]

Could be. My wife has a Colt Agent, mint 1972 2" snub in .38spl
She can shoot it all day long.
It hurts my trigger finger every time I shoot it, so I don't shoot it.
I don't know why it does that, but no others ever have quite the same way

[rangerfan]

I qualified with a Kimber pro covert II in a 45 cal. I had bought the gun about a year before and had never fired it until the day before the CHL class. It is lightweight , very accurate, and safe. I love it!!!! A little pricey, but definitely worth it to me. I did well at the range for my class and it just keeps getting better the more I practice ( which is IMPORTANT )