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And word spreads ...
CBS
News in Dallas-Fort Worth picked it up too
CBSDFW.COM
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2010/11/30/texa ... on-campus/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Texas State University Students Want Guns On Campus
November 30, 2010 1:54 PM
KLRD Radio
Listen to Audio below the photo.
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Georgetown
http://isurfgeorgetown.com/news/texas/5 ... ampus.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Temple, Texas
http://www.isurftemple.com/news/texas/6 ... ampus.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Source: ConcealedCampus.org / Daniel Crocker
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This is a very detailed account
http://www.newstreamz.com/2010/11/30/as ... esolution/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
and I love the comment there
1. Jeff Morelock November 30th, 2010 12:52 pm :
As a former SWAT officer and a current NRA Certified Firearms Instructor, I am a little confused as to why a police officer would need additional training to “discern between aggressors and individuals acting in self-defense”. Its called police work.
Hiring more cops is not a reason or excuse to prevent students with concealed weapons permits to carry on campus either unless you hire enough for every student to carry a concealed police officer, it is not a solution.
CBS
News in Dallas-Fort Worth picked it up too
CBSDFW.COM
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2010/11/30/texa ... on-campus/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Texas State University Students Want Guns On Campus
November 30, 2010 1:54 PM
KLRD Radio
Listen to Audio below the photo.
----------
Georgetown
http://isurfgeorgetown.com/news/texas/5 ... ampus.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Temple, Texas
http://www.isurftemple.com/news/texas/6 ... ampus.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Source: ConcealedCampus.org / Daniel Crocker
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This is a very detailed account
http://www.newstreamz.com/2010/11/30/as ... esolution/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
and I love the comment there
1. Jeff Morelock November 30th, 2010 12:52 pm :
As a former SWAT officer and a current NRA Certified Firearms Instructor, I am a little confused as to why a police officer would need additional training to “discern between aggressors and individuals acting in self-defense”. Its called police work.
Hiring more cops is not a reason or excuse to prevent students with concealed weapons permits to carry on campus either unless you hire enough for every student to carry a concealed police officer, it is not a solution.
Last edited by RPB on Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:10 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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NBC
WOAI TV news in San Antonio just had a news report on it, on the news,
FOX did too
TXSU Student Gov Supports Guns on Campus
http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/top_stor ... 1130-ktbcw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Videos/interview Scott Lewis and John Woods
WOAI TV news in San Antonio just had a news report on it, on the news,
FOX did too
TXSU Student Gov Supports Guns on Campus
http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/top_stor ... 1130-ktbcw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Videos/interview Scott Lewis and John Woods
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74novaman wrote: Great, now TCU is a leg up on us in 2 things.....football and rational students.![]()
TSU, not TCU.
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Even better!ninemm wrote:74novaman wrote: Great, now TCU is a leg up on us in 2 things.....football and rational students.![]()
TSU, not TCU.

(Do we have a "ducking for cover" smiley?)
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RPB wrote:NBC
WOAI TV news in San Antonio just had a news report on it, on the news,
FOX did too
TXSU Student Gov Supports Guns on Campus
http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/top_stor ... 1130-ktbcw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
From the Fox Story...
"Officers are trained to take out the person that's shooting, no matter who it is. If you have a gun, you're going out," says TSU Police Chief Ralph Meyer.
I don't think this would make me feel very safe if I was on campus...

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Reading comprehension fail.ninemm wrote:74novaman wrote: Great, now TCU is a leg up on us in 2 things.....football and rational students.![]()
TSU, not TCU.

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Fox news at 9 in Austin, myfoxaustin.com was great,
quite a few minutes, didn't time it, but with a Reporter on campus at UT interviewing both John Woods (and his silly "CHLs will all be committing suicide if we let them on campus" argument, maybe he means criminal justice professors who are also CHL and firearms instructors?) along with interviewing Scott Lewis, "nope, they don't in churches, banks, restaurants, shopping centers, the State Capitol, etc etc etc."
Really good segment
quite a few minutes, didn't time it, but with a Reporter on campus at UT interviewing both John Woods (and his silly "CHLs will all be committing suicide if we let them on campus" argument, maybe he means criminal justice professors who are also CHL and firearms instructors?) along with interviewing Scott Lewis, "nope, they don't in churches, banks, restaurants, shopping centers, the State Capitol, etc etc etc."
Really good segment
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Dad24GreatKids wrote: From the Fox Story...
"Officers are trained to take out the person that's shooting, no matter who it is. If you have a gun, you're going out," says TSU Police Chief Ralph Meyer.
I don't think this would make me feel very safe if I was on campus...
I really wanted to address that comment in the debate, but the reporter started with Woods, so I had to spend what little time I was allotted rebutting his arguments.
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I'd rather go out knowing that I tried to help others than not do anything at all.[/quote]macavity wrote:"Officers are trained to take out the person that's shooting, no matter who it is. If you have a gun, you're going out," says TSU Police Chief Ralph Meyer.
More to the point, somebody's got to be able to do something while the cops are busy shooting each other for having guns.
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ABC finally chimed in on news at ten
KVUE Austin
Very positive report, though brief, interviewing several students, like a girl who said "I think it's great"
video and reoport at on KVUE.com
http://www.kvue.com/video/featured-vide ... 91934.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
KLBJ radio
http://www.590klbj.com/News/Story.aspx?ID=1319941" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I forget which Waco stations I notified but I can only watch so many channels at once
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Yeah, about that chief
I still like the reply to TSU's Chief that wants to shoot CHLs (I'm guessing he'll shoot people cowering under a desk holding scissors defensively now, or a knife, or a pistol)... (when someone is walking through your classroom with an AK-47 shooting each student in the head one by one, please keep ballpoint pens holstered, so the police do not think you are a bad guy, just remain under your desk, SOMEONE will be with you shortly, thank you for your patience) perhaps the police dept capt and chief should run over to the Hines building for additional courses, oh wait, some professor might be armed.
As a former SWAT officer and a current NRA Certified Firearms Instructor, I am a little confused as to why a police officer would need additional training to “discern between aggressors and individuals acting in self-defense”. Its called police work.
Hiring more cops is not a reason or excuse to prevent students with concealed weapons permits to carry on campus either unless you hire enough for every student to carry a concealed police officer, it is not a solution.
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As a side note, did you know at TSU athletic events, I've read where they disarm off-duty certified police officers?
One posted that he had to return to his car to store his gun, they wouldn't let him in even after showing his badge and TECLOSE certification and everything.
They are afraid a fellow officer might go crazy I guess.
KVUE Austin
Very positive report, though brief, interviewing several students, like a girl who said "I think it's great"
video and reoport at on KVUE.com
http://www.kvue.com/video/featured-vide ... 91934.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
KLBJ radio
http://www.590klbj.com/News/Story.aspx?ID=1319941" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I forget which Waco stations I notified but I can only watch so many channels at once
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Yeah, about that chief

I still like the reply to TSU's Chief that wants to shoot CHLs (I'm guessing he'll shoot people cowering under a desk holding scissors defensively now, or a knife, or a pistol)... (when someone is walking through your classroom with an AK-47 shooting each student in the head one by one, please keep ballpoint pens holstered, so the police do not think you are a bad guy, just remain under your desk, SOMEONE will be with you shortly, thank you for your patience) perhaps the police dept capt and chief should run over to the Hines building for additional courses, oh wait, some professor might be armed.
As a former SWAT officer and a current NRA Certified Firearms Instructor, I am a little confused as to why a police officer would need additional training to “discern between aggressors and individuals acting in self-defense”. Its called police work.
Hiring more cops is not a reason or excuse to prevent students with concealed weapons permits to carry on campus either unless you hire enough for every student to carry a concealed police officer, it is not a solution.
===============
As a side note, did you know at TSU athletic events, I've read where they disarm off-duty certified police officers?
One posted that he had to return to his car to store his gun, they wouldn't let him in even after showing his badge and TECLOSE certification and everything.
They are afraid a fellow officer might go crazy I guess.
Last edited by RPB on Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:48 am, edited 1 time in total.
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San Antonio
http://www.ksat.com/video/25965309/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; video
http://www.ksat.com/education/25965239/detail.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Story
KSAT News 12
Texas State Univ. Student Senate Votes To Oppose Campus Gun Ban
http://www.kens5.com/home/Local-college ... 90644.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
KENS News 5
Local college students demand concealed handguns on campus
Fox 29 has no report, but is scrolling across the bottom of the screen for hours, "Texas State University ...."
(Edited, they just announced on TV, upcoming story about it ... I saw the story, but no link online to it)
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/educat ... 00029.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Texas State students back gun measure
San Antonio Express-News -
Web Posted: 12/01/2010 12:54 AM CST
I think I already posted WOAI channel 4
http://www.ksat.com/video/25965309/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; video
http://www.ksat.com/education/25965239/detail.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Story
KSAT News 12
Texas State Univ. Student Senate Votes To Oppose Campus Gun Ban
http://www.kens5.com/home/Local-college ... 90644.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
KENS News 5
Local college students demand concealed handguns on campus
Fox 29 has no report, but is scrolling across the bottom of the screen for hours, "Texas State University ...."
(Edited, they just announced on TV, upcoming story about it ... I saw the story, but no link online to it)
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/educat ... 00029.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Texas State students back gun measure
San Antonio Express-News -
Web Posted: 12/01/2010 12:54 AM CST
I think I already posted WOAI channel 4
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Houston
KHOU
Texas State students demand concealed handguns on campus
http://www.khou.com/news/Texas-State-st ... 11994.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
KHOU
Texas State students demand concealed handguns on campus
http://www.khou.com/news/Texas-State-st ... 11994.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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School Newspapers
UT paper
Texas State pending concealed carry approval
By Allison Kroll, Daily Texan Staff
Published: Wednesday, December 1, 2010
(Looks like possibly a few Texas State students commented below the article maybe)
http://www.dailytexanonline.com/content ... um=twitter" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
SG finishes last meeting supporting gun control (a/k/a defenseless victim zones/free target ranges/low-risk+high body count areas)
By Audrey White, Daily Texan Staff
Published: Wednesday, December 1, 2010
http://www.dailytexanonline.com/content ... un-control" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
the assembly voted to sign onto an amicus brief from the Brady Center
The UT assembly has previously voted in favor of maintaining the concealed carry ban on college campus
(related in timing and subject)
University of Pittsburgh
Editorial: Guns on campus?
By: Staff Editorial
Posted on 30. Nov, 2010 in Opinions
http://pittnews.com/newsstory/editorial-guns-on-campus/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
UT paper
Texas State pending concealed carry approval
By Allison Kroll, Daily Texan Staff
Published: Wednesday, December 1, 2010
(Looks like possibly a few Texas State students commented below the article maybe)

http://www.dailytexanonline.com/content ... um=twitter" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
SG finishes last meeting supporting gun control (a/k/a defenseless victim zones/free target ranges/low-risk+high body count areas)
By Audrey White, Daily Texan Staff
Published: Wednesday, December 1, 2010
http://www.dailytexanonline.com/content ... un-control" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
the assembly voted to sign onto an amicus brief from the Brady Center



The UT assembly has previously voted in favor of maintaining the concealed carry ban on college campus
(related in timing and subject)
University of Pittsburgh
Editorial: Guns on campus?
By: Staff Editorial
Posted on 30. Nov, 2010 in Opinions
http://pittnews.com/newsstory/editorial-guns-on-campus/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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http://www.nowaustin.com/dpps/news/educ ... ry_3663879" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Looks like a TV station in Austin
http://island-adv.com/2010/11/texas-sta ... on-campus/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Back to Basics (blog linking to KXAN; submitted by JOHN LOTT)
http://www.wopular.com/texas-state-stud ... un-measure" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Short announcement, linking to mysanantonionews
http://www.allvoices.com/news/7487291-t ... un-measure" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Short announcement, linking to San Antonio Express News
http://mlb.msg.com/article/0fW3cEJdTX57k" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Short announcement, linking to KSAT TV News channel 12
http://oneclick.indiatimes.com/article/0fW3cEJdTX57k" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Short announcement, linking to KSAT TV News channel 12
http://shybarbarian.com/2010/12/tx-texa ... n-measure/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Short announcement, linking to San Antonio Express News
http://www.daylife.com/article/07eE2dB6il9Mq" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Short announcement, linking to San Antonio Express News
And .... various Forums Nationwide.
Looks like a TV station in Austin
http://island-adv.com/2010/11/texas-sta ... on-campus/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Back to Basics (blog linking to KXAN; submitted by JOHN LOTT)
http://www.wopular.com/texas-state-stud ... un-measure" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Short announcement, linking to mysanantonionews
http://www.allvoices.com/news/7487291-t ... un-measure" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Short announcement, linking to San Antonio Express News
http://mlb.msg.com/article/0fW3cEJdTX57k" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Short announcement, linking to KSAT TV News channel 12
http://oneclick.indiatimes.com/article/0fW3cEJdTX57k" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Short announcement, linking to KSAT TV News channel 12
http://shybarbarian.com/2010/12/tx-texa ... n-measure/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Short announcement, linking to San Antonio Express News
http://www.daylife.com/article/07eE2dB6il9Mq" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Short announcement, linking to San Antonio Express News
And .... various Forums Nationwide.
I'm no lawyer
"Never show your hole card" "Always have something in reserve"
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