HB 2756
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HB 2756
Licensed Open Carry has been filed by Lavender. It basically strikes concealed everywhere it appears in the government, alcoholic beverage and penal codes. I hope it passes along with Campus Carry and Parking Lot legislation. It is nice going to PA and OCing every once and a while.
I just hope the fears expressed here do not happen. Good luck to this and every other pro 2A bill out there this session!!!
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I just hope the fears expressed here do not happen. Good luck to this and every other pro 2A bill out there this session!!!
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Re: HB 2756
You beat me to it, here is the link: http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/82 ... 02756I.htm
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Re: HB 2756
Yeah. It won't pass...AFCop wrote:
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Re: HB 2756
Late in the session, no co-authors, no companion... much as I and many others want it, I think this is how it will end.pbwalker wrote:Yeah. It won't pass...AFCop wrote:
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It'd be nice, really doubt it will pass this time, perhaps it will influence others to pass other bills that need passing, maybe in the future it will.
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Re: HB 2756
jordanmills wrote:Late in the session, no co-authors, no companion... much as I and many others want it, I think this is how it will end.pbwalker wrote:Yeah. It won't pass...AFCop wrote:
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Re: HB 2756
An important element of an open carry bill should be to specify that open carry alone does not qualify as an offense under §42.08:
Something along the lines of "A person licensed to carry a handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code does not commit an offense under subsection (a)(8) if the sole element of the conduct is the person carries a handgun in an unconcealed manner."
I can see a lot of arrest for open carry (especially in the big cities) if it is not made explicit that open carry is not disorderly conduct.Sec. 42.01. DISORDERLY CONDUCT. (a) A person commits an offense if he intentionally or knowingly:
(8) displays a firearm or other deadly weapon in a public place in a manner calculated to alarm
Something along the lines of "A person licensed to carry a handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code does not commit an offense under subsection (a)(8) if the sole element of the conduct is the person carries a handgun in an unconcealed manner."
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Good point.hirundo82 wrote:An important element of an open carry bill should be to specify that open carry alone does not qualify as an offense under §42.08:
I can see a lot of arrest for open carry (especially in the big cities) if it is not made explicit that open carry is not disorderly conduct.Sec. 42.01. DISORDERLY CONDUCT. (a) A person commits an offense if he intentionally or knowingly:
(8) displays a firearm or other deadly weapon in a public place in a manner calculated to alarm
Something along the lines of "A person licensed to carry a handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code does not commit an offense under subsection (a)(8) if the sole element of the conduct is the person carries a handgun in an unconcealed manner."
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Re: HB 2756
Do they arrest a lot of bank and armored car guards for disorderly conduct where you live?hirundo82 wrote:I can see a lot of arrest for open carry (especially in the big cities) if it is not made explicit that open carry is not disorderly conduct.
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No, but HPD isn't a big fan of CHLs.scud runner wrote:Do they arrest a lot of bank and armored car guards for disorderly conduct where you live?hirundo82 wrote:I can see a lot of arrest for open carry (especially in the big cities) if it is not made explicit that open carry is not disorderly conduct.
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Re: HB 2756
That's too bad. I hope they're the ones who get laid off by the budget cuts.hirundo82 wrote:No, but HPD isn't a big fan of CHLs.
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They've gotten better, but if open carry were to pass and they started getting "man with a gun" calls from soccer moms who get the vapors from seeing someone not in uniform carrying a gun some of them are going to try to get a charge to stick.scud runner wrote:That's too bad. I hope they're the ones who get laid off by the budget cuts.hirundo82 wrote:No, but HPD isn't a big fan of CHLs.
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Neither is APDhirundo82 wrote:No, but HPD isn't a big fan of CHLs.scud runner wrote:Do they arrest a lot of bank and armored car guards for disorderly conduct where you live?hirundo82 wrote:I can see a lot of arrest for open carry (especially in the big cities) if it is not made explicit that open carry is not disorderly conduct.

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Re: HB 2756
How is this even relevant? They are in uniform and expected to be carrying a handgun in their duties. I believe hirundo82 is referring to the multitude of youtube videos of people being harrassed by police because someone reported a man with a gun. Also, open carry garnered so much attention in kalifornia after the people there decided to make a spectacle of their open carry rights (I stated that correctly, it is a right) that legislation was introduced to ban open carry and many business and restaurant chains were lobbied to ban the open carry of firearms in public places. That is the attention that hirundo82 mentions when he says there needs to be a clause excluding openly carrying a firearm from the disorderly conduct clause.scud runner wrote:Do they arrest a lot of bank and armored car guards for disorderly conduct where you live?hirundo82 wrote:I can see a lot of arrest for open carry (especially in the big cities) if it is not made explicit that open carry is not disorderly conduct.