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I will be attending an event at American airlines center tomorrow night. We are considering riding the dart train from Arlington. Is either place 30.06 posted or off limits for carry for any other reason?
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Any sporting event is off limits. Period.
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The trains are okay, but as fake as the WWE Raw is, I think is still considered a professional sporting event, so Grizz is right.

The AAC has taken down their metal detectors, but they still wand many people that enter for any event. I have never seen a 30.06 sign there and have only been there for hockey. I've been wanded once and let in without being wanded 4-5 times. My brother told me they wanded him when he took the kids there for the circus. My brother does not have a CHL or even own a gun. I don't like the circus, but don't know if I would have attempted to carry for that event or not because I know their mindset and don't know if I would have been in the mood to discuss it with them.

The first time I went there after getting my CHL I couldn't remember about pro sporting events and when I saw the metal detectors I stopped to ask and officer standing outside. This sergeant didn't know what a CHL was and was shocked when I told him. Still not knowing, I went ahead and returned it to my truck and came back unarmed. As son as I got home I checked the handbook and was glad I took it back to the truck.
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Griz44 wrote:Any sporting event is off limits. Period.
Greetings, all. Been poking around this site for some time, and greatly enjoy the legal conversations on the site. Most show some deep understanding of both the letter and intent of the law. So, please forgive me for choosing this to be the subject of my first post. I hope to post more in the future. I have been carrying with a CHL for over two years and still enjoy debating/discussing the finer points, as I don't want ANY of us to go around unarmed if legally possible. I have seen many blanket, "in no uncertain term" posts like this, on many other forums, not just concerning firearms and I always question them. The best credit a statement like this could use is actual law. Please reference Texas law that gives you this opinion, your statement would be that much more important.
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shorty-forty-fan wrote:
Griz44 wrote:Any sporting event is off limits. Period.
Greetings, all. Been poking around this site for some time, and greatly enjoy the legal conversations on the site. Most show some deep understanding of both the letter and intent of the law. So, please forgive me for choosing this to be the subject of my first post. I hope to post more in the future. I have been carrying with a CHL for over two years and still enjoy debating/discussing the finer points, as I don't want ANY of us to go around unarmed if legally possible. I have seen many blanket, "in no uncertain term" posts like this, on many other forums, not just concerning firearms and I always question them. The best credit a statement like this could use is actual law. Please reference Texas law that gives you this opinion, your statement would be that much more important.
Here you go:
TX Penal code 46.035, (b)(2) full text is here: http://law.onecle.com/texas/penal/46.035.00.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
§ 46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE
HOLDER. (a) A license holder commits an offense if the license
holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder's person
under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code,
and intentionally fails to conceal the handgun.
(b) A license holder commits an offense if the license
holder intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun
under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code,
regardless of whether the handgun is concealed, on or about the
license holder's person:
(1) on the premises of a business that has a permit or
license issued under Chapter 25, 28, 32, 69, or 74, Alcoholic
Beverage Code, if the business derives 51 percent or more of its
income from the sale or service of alcoholic beverages for
on-premises consumption, as determined by the Texas Alcoholic
Beverage Commission under Section 104.06, Alcoholic Beverage Code;
(2) on the premises where a high school, collegiate,
or professional sporting event or interscholastic event is taking
place, unless the license holder is a participant in the event and a
handgun is used in the event;
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Quick clarification.... Any "high school, collegiate, or professional sporting event, or interscholastic..." event is off limits.

So I regularly attend my daughters' non-school affiliated, clearly amateur, softball games, while carrying. And I am not breaking the law.

It is also possible for AAC to have a sporting event that is neither professional, nor interscholastic..., though perhaps unlikely. Carry at such an event would be legal, though it remains to be seen whether you could get in...
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ScottDLS wrote:Quick clarification.... Any "high school, collegiate, or professional sporting event, or interscholastic..." event is off limits.

So I regularly attend my daughters' non-school affiliated, clearly amateur, softball games, while carrying. And I am not breaking the law.

It is also possible for AAC to have a sporting event that is neither professional, nor interscholastic..., though perhaps unlikely. Carry at such an event would be legal, though it remains to be seen whether you could get in...
That is where I was hoping this discussion would go... 'high school, collegiate, etc.' does not mean 'any'.

Thank you for the responses.
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School scantioned sporting event is different from student practicing or playing in a gym or lke in Plano, TX in huge sporting hall ( not sure what is called, where I carried once)
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if it is WWE is that an entertainment event ? not really a sport ? not that I would go anyway,,just an honest question
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cnovel wrote:if it is WWE is that an entertainment event ? not really a sport ? not that I would go anyway,,just an honest question
I don't believe that it is a sporting event. It's just bad theater. :lol:
Even the company name states that it is entertainment. "World Wrestling Entertainment, Inc."
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