Coyotes...again

CHL discussions that do not fit into more specific topics

Moderators: carlson1, Charles L. Cotton

speedsix
Senior Member
Posts: 5608
Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:39 am

Re: Coyotes...again

Post by speedsix »

stroo wrote:Somehow, I don't think the Texas Parks and Wildlife official quoted in the original article was advocating shooting them.

Right idea though! :iagree:
...probably was trying to keep things quiet...but that is the law...and a coyote is not a game animal in Texas...so I'll follow the law...

http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/huntwild/wi ... protected/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ( for those who don't wanna read the link, it says you can get Mama a coyote fur coat for free...
apostate
Senior Member
Posts: 2336
Joined: Sun Oct 14, 2007 10:01 am

Re: Coyotes...again

Post by apostate »

If they eat stray cats, coyotes are welcome in my neighborhood. :skep:
speedsix
Senior Member
Posts: 5608
Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:39 am

Re: Coyotes...again

Post by speedsix »

...no self-respecting coyote would eat a cat...'ceptin' maybe at night when noone could see...
User avatar
C-dub
Senior Member
Posts: 13577
Joined: Sat May 16, 2009 7:18 pm
Location: DFW

Re: Coyotes...again

Post by C-dub »

Get a Llama.

Okay, well, a couple of large dogs would do. Maybe a Rottie or Pyrenees.
I am not and have never been a LEO. My avatar is in honor of my friend, Dallas Police Sargent Michael Smith, who was murdered along with four other officers in Dallas on 7.7.2016.
NRA Patriot-Endowment Lifetime Member---------------------------------------------Si vis pacem, para bellum.................................................Patriot Guard Rider
User avatar
jimlongley
Senior Member
Posts: 6134
Joined: Wed Jan 12, 2005 1:31 pm
Location: Allen, TX

Re: Coyotes...again

Post by jimlongley »

texasag93 wrote:"I want the coyotes out of here. I want to have protection for our children and our pets. This means we can't let our kids come out for a moment or our pets into our back yard. This is ridiculous," said McCallister.

........if she wants them out of there, shoot them.
I'm all for shooting them, and I think my next gun related purchase might just be some smaller buckshot, I think 00 might just be looked upon as overkill, even if they are a threat. We hear them regularly in Allen, although my fence is pretty tall, so my yard may be safer then hers - she needs to mend her fence a little.

I would like to point out to the young lady, though, that the situation is exactly the reverse, we are living in their back yards.
Real gun control, carrying 24/7/365
User avatar
kjolly
Senior Member
Posts: 515
Joined: Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:00 am

Re: Coyotes...again

Post by kjolly »

Last hunting trip I was surrounded by them but never saw one. Just heard the howls. Kind of a spooky feeling knowing there is a pack around you.
Texas CHL Instructor, NRA Certified Trainer, IDPA
NRA Range Safety Officer

http://www.tacticalpistol.us
smtimelevi
Member
Posts: 144
Joined: Sat Apr 16, 2011 3:16 pm

Re: Coyotes...again

Post by smtimelevi »

I'd shoot every one I saw if they were attacking and killing my dog. I would also continue to kill them when I saw them after that. Its not illegal, dont know why everybody so worried about the poor coyotes if they're killing pets.

Funny how these folks act like they're helpless and the government must do something to save them. :headscratch
speedsix
Senior Member
Posts: 5608
Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:39 am

Re: Coyotes...again

Post by speedsix »

...coyotes are the rats of the dog kingdom...
User avatar
RoyGBiv
Senior Member
Posts: 9602
Joined: Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:41 am
Location: Fort Worth

Re: Coyotes...again

Post by RoyGBiv »

Our property backs up to about 20 acres of wooded land that's surrounded by streets and houses. Down the road about a half mile is a fire station. In the winter (never the summer), when the sirens start howling out of the fire station, the coyotes will howl back at the EMS sirens. I'd guessitimate 6 to 8 individuals last year.

My dog will occasionally go crazy throwing herself against the back fence in our yard. Opossums or coyotes for sure. I've seen the occasional coyote crossing our street, heading back towards the woods.

Once I spotted a pretty large coyote trotting down the road in an adjacent neighborhood in the middle of the day. I called the police (non emergency number) to report it. They said, "We've had several reports of that coyote today." "Any suggestions", I said. The dispatcher said "They were there before your house was, just ignore it." :roll:

So far, we've not had any attacks or missing pets reported.
If I find one in the yard acting aggressively, it's nice to know I can shoot it if I need to, without it being a crime.
I am not a lawyer. This is NOT legal advice.!
Nothing tempers idealism quite like the cold bath of reality.... SQLGeek
speedsix
Senior Member
Posts: 5608
Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:39 am

Re: Coyotes...again

Post by speedsix »

...someone with no common sense might want to charge you with your local equivalent of discharging firearms within city limits or in a dedicated subdivision, but it's not likely when the LEO finds out that the coyote was snarling and advancing on you or a pet...(though humans aren't protected by that law you linked) http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/txstatutes/ ... /B/822.013" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Heartland Patriot

Re: Coyotes...again

Post by Heartland Patriot »

speedsix wrote:...no self-respecting coyote would eat a cat...'ceptin' maybe at night when noone could see...
I lived in the South Texas Brush Country as a teenager, out on "the ranch" as they say down there. One night we heard a howling racket outside that woke us up. My dad grabbed the old H&R 12 ga. and handed me the flashlight and we headed toward the fence. He played the light around and we couldn't hardly believe what we saw. A coyote was just on the other side of the fence with his head down whipping it from side to side with something kind of hanging underneath his head/neck area...and then it came loose and the coyote took off running back into the brush. The thing under his head/neck turned out to be our "barn cat" tom named Rocky...he came wandering under the fence and onto the property, got over to us and set down and started licking blood off of himself. After a bit, we got him to come over and checked him out. He didn't have any injuries that we could find, but I think he messed that coyote up a little. He also lived through several rattlesnake bites...He was a heck of a good barn cat.
wharvey
Senior Member
Posts: 244
Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:00 am
Location: Natalia, Texas

Re: Coyotes...again

Post by wharvey »

smtimelevi wrote: Funny how these folks act like they're helpless and the government must do something to save them. :headscratch
Like the couple who called 911 when they got lost in a corn maze this year.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationn ... l-911.html
Bill Harvey

License to Carry Handgun - Indiana, since Aug 1997
CHL - Texas, since Aug 2011
Ruark
Senior Member
Posts: 1824
Joined: Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:11 pm

Re: Coyotes...again

Post by Ruark »

Bottom line question: if you live where there is a city ordinance against discharging firearms within the city limits, and you use a firearm to kill a coyote that is attacking, threatening to attack, or has attacked your or your pet(s) or livestock, is the PC cite below a defense against prosecution?
-Ruark
speedsix
Senior Member
Posts: 5608
Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:39 am

Re: Coyotes...again

Post by speedsix »

...PC9.22 should satisfy that situation...
User avatar
RoyGBiv
Senior Member
Posts: 9602
Joined: Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:41 am
Location: Fort Worth

Re: Coyotes...again

Post by RoyGBiv »

I would think (not sure) that 9.22 wold cover you if the animal was going to attack YOU or another person and not your dog.
http://law.onecle.com/texas/penal/9.22.00.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Also... PC 42.092 covers "Dangerous Wild Animals", which includes Coyote, but not dogs.
http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/d ... /PE.42.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
(d) It is a defense to prosecution under this section that:
(1) the actor had a reasonable fear of bodily injury to the actor or to another person by a dangerous wild animal as defined by Section 822.101, Health and Safety Code
http://law.onecle.com/texas/health/822.101.00.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
(4) "Dangerous wild animal" means:
(A) a lion;
(B) a tiger;
(C) an ocelot;
(D) a cougar;
(E) a leopard;
(F) a cheetah;
(G) a jaguar;
(H) a bobcat;
(I) a lynx;
(J) a serval;
(K) a caracal;
(L) a hyena;
(M) a bear;
(N) a coyote;
(O) a jackal;
(P) a baboon;
(Q) a chimpanzee;
(R) an orangutan;
(S) a gorilla; or
(T) any hybrid of an animal listed in this
subdivision.
I am not a lawyer. This is NOT legal advice.!
Nothing tempers idealism quite like the cold bath of reality.... SQLGeek
Post Reply

Return to “General Texas CHL Discussion”