CHL, 2nd form of ID?

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CHL, 2nd form of ID?

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Can you use a CHL for a second form of ID.

Example: I cash till checks for my boss all the time at his bank, i have no account there, and the teller asks me sometimes for a second form of ID. Of course i use my TXDL for one and usually a credit card. I am not worried about letting the teller or anyone else around me know im armed, but just asking if you can. just in case.

I guess my other question is or maybe the same question, but can you use it for any type of identification? Other than LEO contacts. Like buying things that have an age restriction on them.
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It's a state-issued photo ID, so you can use it anywhere it is accepted. Many people will not know what it is.

Many CHL holders do not want to reveal that they are CHL holders, and therefore do not present their CHL anywhere they don't have to. Worse case, someone might look at it and shriek, "He has a gun!"

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I use mine for ID on a regular basis just because it in the front of my wallet where I can easily present it to a LEO if needed and easiest to get to sometimes I get strange looks and even get asked for my DL from time to time but most people are cool with it
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I hear an echo. :lol:
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seamusTX wrote:It's a state-issued photo ID, so you can use it anywhere it is accepted. Many people will not know what it is.

Many CHL holders do not want to reveal that they are CHL holders, and therefore do not present their CHL anywhere they don't have to. Worse case, someone might look at it and shriek, "He has a gun!"

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hi-power wrote:I hear an echo. :lol:
I hear an echo

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I use mine when I need a second ID, which is rare.
then I duct tape my gun to my forehead.
no one notices either.
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seamusTX wrote:It's a state-issued photo ID, so you can use it anywhere it is accepted. Many people will not know what it is.

Many CHL holders do not want to reveal that they are CHL holders, and therefore do not present their CHL anywhere they don't have to. Worse case, someone might look at it and shriek, "He has a gun!"

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Now strangely enough, I could have SWORN I had heard of some rumbling that it actually was NOT a valid form of ID.

Maybe that was just insomuch as government ID's, like for flying, or something. I was lead to believe it was NOT a valid form of ID.
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nitrogen wrote:Now strangely enough, I could have SWORN I had heard of some rumbling that it actually was NOT a valid form of ID.

Maybe that was just insomuch as government ID's, like for flying, or something. I was lead to believe it was NOT a valid form of ID.
This is also what i heard. thats why i thought i would ask....

As far as broad casting that i have CHL. i agree with what yall are saying, that its no ones business but mine. I just wanted to know?
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nitrogen wrote:Now strangely enough, I could have SWORN I had heard of some rumbling that it actually was NOT a valid form of ID.

Maybe that was just insomuch as government ID's, like for flying, or something. I was lead to believe it was NOT a valid form of ID.
I recall that too... It is a license not and official form of ID, but a driver's license is an "official state ID card". That being said, I did use mine at the bank once as a second form of ID when I was cashing a check. Got a great big smile from the teller.
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In my classes I recommend against using a CHL as a form of ID. For one, technically speaking, a Military ID is a valid form of ID, but some places won't accept that. When I was a young Marine I presented my military ID when attempting to purchase a pack of cigarettes. The clerk would not accept it. She then would not accept my Texas Driver's License because it was expired (though according to Texas Transportation Code is still valid when presented with a valid military ID).

In all actuality a CHL SHOULD be considered a more valid form of ID than a credit card, as a credit card is not issued by a governmental entity. The final decision on what is considered a valid form of ID, however, lies with the institution requiring you to identify yourself.

As far as whether it's a GOOD IDEA to present a CHL as a form of ID, I generally recommend against it. Discretion is the better part of valor. I've never heard of anyone getting taken in for causing a disturbance by displaying their CHL in a bank, but I probably wouldn't be shocked if it happened (I'm not saying it's right, just that it wouldn't surprise me...)

I recommend using something other than your CHL. If you are trying to buy tobacco, alcohol, et cetera, why would you need to display your CHL instead of your DL? Remember, that when your ID is demanded by a peace officer or a magistrate, you must display both your Texas DL or state identification certificate AND your CHL when carrying a concealed handgun. So if you have your CHL, you should probably have your DL. I seem to remember somewhere (I could be mistaken) that a CHL is not considered valid unless presented with a Texas DL or Texas ID Certificate.

While it's not a real firm answer, those are my thoughts on the matter.
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JohnTheHead wrote:ISo if you have your CHL, you should probably have your DL. I seem to remember somewhere (I could be mistaken) that a CHL is not considered valid unless presented with a Texas DL or Texas ID Certificate.
GC §411.205. DISPLAYING LICENSE; PENALTY. (a) If a license holder is carrying a handgun on or about the license holder's person when a magistrate or a peace officer demands that the license holder display identification, the license holder shall display both the license holder's driver's license or identification certificate issued by the department and the license holder's handgun license.

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when I was a dependent, I never had a problem with brandishing my military ID.
I, as well, have used my CHL at the bank, AND the airport.
yes, I'm special. you all can touch me. :lol:

you know, it's right there next to the ole DL, it has mah ugly mug on it, I've never had a problem. course, I ain't usin' it ta pick up mah 6'er on the way home from tha job!!
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I vacationed in Scotland last summer with my wife and we were renting a Suzuki Bandit 1200 so we could "sport tour motorcycle" over the Highlands.

The dealership wanted a Passport, another government picture ID, and a utility bill in order to get insurance for the bike (a crotch rocket). I provided all of these and answered, no I am not an actor or an oil platfrom worker (high risks) and the insurance person talking on the phone to the dealer who was renting the bike asked if I had additional identification. I produced my TX CHL and the dealer said "He has a concealed handgun license from the State of Texas!" to the insurance agent on the phone. The approval came about two seconds later!The dealer said "I've never seen one of these." I smiled and said there were a few in Texas. I left with the bike and our host on his BMW on one of the best vacations I've ever taken. :grin:


This was a case where the CHL did help!

PS, I felt fairly safe all over Scotland, except for Glasgow....there were parts of that town that made me wish I had my P-99!!!! :shock:

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Well, there was an interesting story about this on the San Antonio radio recently. I was told this last weekend by a friend, so I might not have all of the details correct but the gist is.

There is a country music morning show with two male DJ's, and it seems like one is always talking about the other being a redneck. Well, the first DJ went out to the rodeo with some guests. He was running a tab at a bar where they ask you to leave your driver's license as a form of security. While out, he realized he needed to run over and pick up some tickets for the next day to the rodeo to give out as prizes on the air. He left the bar, leaving his license so the others could continue to drink while he was out for a minute, and went across to the ticket office. Of course, they wanted ID to prove who they were giving free tickets to and he did not have his DL. He did have a CHL and decided to use that for ID. There was no rpoblem and the clerk accepted it. She did have one comment though. She looked at the CHL and said: "And you call the other guy a redneck?" :)
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