casselthief wrote:wasn't talkin' about Webb, I was talkin' about the subject of the arrest, the subject of the news article, and the subject of the thread.
Sorry. I misunderstood.
- Jim
hey, no problem. nice to hear about Webb's military service.
My comment was that I often hear the media relate that someone has an affinity for firearms simply because they were in the military.
Jim Webb used to be a hero of mine. However he ran one of the dirtiest campaigns for Senate I have ever seen, doesn't believe the Islamofascists are a serious threat (although he does take the Chinese seriously), believes we should cut and run from Iraq, and believes in raising taxes alot. He has been real disappointment to me.
WASHINGTON — Virginia Sen. Jim Webb said Tuesday he did not give aide Phillip Thompson the gun that led to his arrest in a Senate office building. Webb did not say whether it was his gun.
Thompson is awaiting arraignment in D.C. Superior Court after being arrested Monday for trying to enter the Russell Senate Office Building, where Webb's office is located, carrying a loaded pistol and two fully loaded magazines.
The judge will determine whether Thompson, 45, will have to pay bail to get out of jail, and will set a date for a preliminary hearing. Thompson spent the night in a D.C. jail after U.S. Capitol Police determined Monday that he did not have a permit to carry a gun in Washington, D.C., where only law enforcement officials are allowed to carry handguns.
He is charged with carrying a pistol without a license and possession of an unregistered firearm and unregistered ammunition. According to the court docket, Monday was Thompson's birthday.
A senior Democratic aide said Monday evening that Thompson forgot that he had the weapon when he sent the senator's bag through the X-ray machine at the office building. The aide said Webb gave the bag that contained the gun to Thompson when the aide drove the senator to the airport.
Webb said he has been in New Orleans since Friday and returned Monday night. He denied that he gave the weapon to Thompson.
"We had three cars on Friday that were being moved about because of my trip, and that is probably a reason that this inadvertent situation developed. And that's really the extent to which I think I should be discussing. That's really all I can say," he said, adding that he couldn't talk about the case because of the legal proceedings and his desire not to prejudice the situation.
But Webb did shoot down rumors that he carries a gun in the Capitol complex.
"I believe that it's important — it's important for me, personally, and for a lot of people in the situation that I'm in, to be able to defend myself and my family," Webb said. "Since 9/11 for people who are in government I think in general there has been an agreement that it's a more dangerous time. Again, I'm not going to comment, again, with great specificity about how I defend myself, but I do feel that I have that right."
Thompson, a former military reporter based in Virginia, joined the senator's staff at the beginning of Webb's Senate campaign. Webb was elected to office in November. Thompson travels frequently with the senator.
Asked what support the senator was giving to his aide, Webb told FOX News, "We're doing all we can."
"I want to emphasize, first of all, that Phillip Thompson is a long-time friend. He's a fine individual. ... I have a tremendous amount of respect for him," Webb told reporters. "I think this is one of those very unfortunate situations where, completely inadvertently, he took the weapon into the Senate yesterday."
Handguns are illegal in Washington, D.C., but nearby Virginia allows residents to carry concealed handguns. Capitol Police rules allow members and their employees to bring a weapon onto Capitol grounds if it is unloaded and securely wrapped. In this case, it was allegedly neither.
Webb said he is a big supporter of the constitutional right to bear arms and thinks Virginia's concealed handgun law is a "fair law."
"Everyone here knows that I am a strong supporter of the Second Amendment, that I have had a permit to carry a weapon in Virginia for a long time," he said.
"The judge will determine whether Thompson, 45, will have to pay bail to get out of jail, and will set a date for a preliminary hearing. Thompson spent the night in a D.C. jail (three hots, a cot and a wake up call) after U.S. Capitol Police determined Monday that he did not have a permit to carry a gun in Washington, D.C., where only law enforcement officials are allowed to carry handguns."
And I bet they think this system (so far) has worked soooooooo well...
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"He is charged with carrying a pistol without a license and possession of an unregistered firearm and unregistered ammunition. According to the court docket, Monday was Thompson's birthday"
Wow, unregistered ammunition. Good thing I don't live in D.C.....
"I believe that it's important — it's important for me, personally, and for a lot of people in the situation that I'm in, to be able to defend myself and my family," Webb said. "Since 9/11 for people who are in government I think in general there has been an agreement that it's a more dangerous time. Again, I'm not going to comment, again, with great specificity about how I defend myself, but I do feel that I have that right."
The problem with this statement is that "he" believes it's important for "him" to be able to defend himself and his family" without saying how important it is for ALL law abiding Americans to be able to do the same thing.
It appears, by this statement that he believes - deep down, that there is a line between "People who are in government" and "We the People".
This morning I caught the end of an Interview on Fox and Friends. They were interviewing some guy named "Bob Massey" about concealed handgun permits in light of this arrest by this aide. One of the questions Gretchen Carlson asked him was if people appling for handgun permits underwent psychological evaluations! I think it was Steve Doocey that piped up and said that members of Congress don't undergo evaluations either- but maybe they should. I missed most of the interview and did not pick up on just exactly who Bob Massey was and what his expertise was.
"But Webb did shoot down rumors (get it?) that he carries a gun in the Capitol complex."
Yes, I think it's obvious that the aide carries Webb's gun in the Capitol complex. The aide just has to remember that he can only bypass security with the Senator present. Otherwise, his stuff has to go through the x-ray machine.
I'm going to make an educated assumtion here that everyone so far sees how wrong all of this is on so many levels...
All the subtleties in the comments made so far by Webb, and in the interviews some of the idle banter thrown out there by the Ducey's and their ilk...
I believe it is just like throwing that holy water on vampires that some people just don't get it about this issue...
CaptDave...You keep ranting...You hit it on the head!!!
I'm just waiting for the folks that live in D.C. to make runs on the gunshops now...I wonder why that hasn't been reported yet???
The D.C. ban has been determined to be un-Constitutional, so why should they not (if they choose to do so) arm up???
Is there some other legal process that has been missed???
Is the local government, and law enforcement not going to comply with the recent ruling???
Just curious...
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Venus Pax wrote:Registered ammo?
never heard of it.
Welcome to DC. Yes, ammo must be registered there.
Is the ammo serial numbered?
Someone on PDO posted the law:
District of Columbia Criminal Law and Procedure, Chapter 7-2506.01 states,
No person shall possess ammunition in the District of Columbia unless:
(1) He is a licensed dealer pursuant to subchapter IV;
(2) He is an officer, agent, or employee of the District of Columbia or the United States of America, on duty and acting within the scope of his duties when possessing such ammunition;
(3) He is the holder of the valid registration certificate for a firearm of the same gauge or caliber as the ammunition he possesses; except, that no such person shall possess restricted pistol bullets; or
(4) He holds an ammunition collector's certificate on September 24, 1976.
7-2501.01 Definitions
(2) "Ammunition" means cartridge cases, shells, projectiles (including shot), primers, bullets (including restricted pistol bullets), propellant powder, or other devices or materials designed, redesigned, or intended for use in a firearm or destructive device.
7-2507.06 Penalties
(1) A person who knowingly or intentionally sells, transfers, or distributes a firearm, destructive device, or ammunition to a person under 18 years of age shall be fined not more than $10,000 or imprisoned for not more than 10 years, or both.
