ND by FBI agent - with a rifle.

[Greybeard]

On a story earlier this week that some may have also followed but I don't believe has been posted here ...
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Local FBI agent first to die on duty since 9-11
Barry Lee Bush started his career in Berks County
The Morning Call
The bullet that killed a veteran FBI agent from Forks Township during a bank robbery investigation hit him in the armpit, where he was not covered by his bulletproof vest, according to published reports.

Barry Lee Bush, 52, was in a car that tried to block a suspect outside a PNC bank in central New Jersey when a van full of officers pulled up next to the suspect's car, the New York Daily News states.

One of the agents accidentally fired his rifle as he leaped out of the van and the bullet struck Bush's car, then clipped Bush, the newspaper states.

He is the first FBI agent killed in the line of duty since Sept. 11, 2001, the New York Daily News states.

State police captured a third bank robbery suspect this morning a few miles from the bank, two other robbery suspects were captured shortly after the shooting yesterday.
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After a little more research this morning, I picked up on the article above from another forum. Questions have lingerd for me since this happened how it happened and with what type of firearm - and this tells a little more. Another violation of rule(s) in the midst of stress.

[KRM45]

On a story earlier this week that some may have also followed but I don't believe has been posted here ...
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Local FBI agent first to die on duty since 9-11
Barry Lee Bush started his career in Berks County
The Morning Call
The bullet that killed a veteran FBI agent from Forks Township during a bank robbery investigation hit him in the armpit, where he was not covered by his bulletproof vest, according to published reports.

Barry Lee Bush, 52, was in a car that tried to block a suspect outside a PNC bank in central New Jersey when a van full of officers pulled up next to the suspect's car, the New York Daily News states.

One of the agents accidentally fired his rifle as he leaped out of the van and the bullet struck Bush's car, then clipped Bush, the newspaper states.

He is the first FBI agent killed in the line of duty since Sept. 11, 2001, the New York Daily News states.

State police captured a third bank robbery suspect this morning a few miles from the bank, two other robbery suspects were captured shortly after the shooting yesterday.
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After a little more research this morning, I picked up on the article above from another forum. Questions have lingerd for me since this happened how it happened and with what type of firearm - and this tells a little more. Another violation of rule(s) in the midst of stress.

I saw the news of this agent's death when it first came out, but this is the first I've heard of the cause...

This is a real tradgedy for all involved. It reinforces the importance of keeping your finger off the trigger and not "muzzling" your fellow officers...

[TheRising]

I lived in Berks County for a summer, if they are talking about the one in Pennsylvania. It is a really beautiful place, and the best hotdogs around!!!

As for the story, like you guys said, this really affirms the fact that you need to be conscious of what you are doing with a firearm at all times. I can't imagine what the agent who shot him feels like.

[DSARGE]

SAFETY! SAFETY! SAFETY! Constantly check safety and be cognizant of muzzle awareness. I feel that those of us who carry weapons on a daily basis sometimes become more complacent. I was not at this accident, nor do I know those involved so I am not at all referring to them, but friendly fire is an unneeded tragedy. I saw a fire team getting in an uparmored HMMWV and an M-16 discharged while putting it in the rack. The bullet bounced around a while. Luckily he was the first one getting in and noone was hurt.

[txinvestigator]

This is why we teach safety ON until ON target. It has to be instinct.

I have a buddy with the Bureau who lives in New Jersey and works out of the NY city office. I didn't hear from him until yesterday afternoon, so I was very worried.

He told me that this has torn up everyone in the area. Bush was a great agent and well-liked, selfless and couragous.

I hope you guys with pray for them all.

[jbirds1210]

Let's all keep the family of this agent in our prayers. This is a horrible accident.

[KRM45]

Let's all keep the family of this agent in our prayers. This is a horrible accident.

+1 for both their families.

[Tote 9]

Let's all keep the family of this agent in our prayers. This is a horrible accident.

+1 for both their families.

+2

[HankB]

It wouldn't surprise me if someone at FBI HQ or the DA's officer was trying to figure out a way to twist the law so as to pin the death on the bank robbery suspects - who reportedly didn't fire ANY rounds during this event - even though an FBI agent was the actual triggerman . . .

[txinvestigator]

It wouldn't surprise me if someone at FBI HQ or the DA's officer was trying to figure out a way to twist the law so as to pin the death on the bank robbery suspects - who reportedly didn't fire ANY rounds during this event - even though an FBI agent was the actual triggerman . . .

Amazing. An agent is dead, tragically, at the hands of another agent, the body us not even cold and you are accusing the Bureau of future crooked acts regarding this.

Your insinuation is offensive.

[jbirds1210]

I doubt any of us will ever know exactly what occured outside of the bank.

What we do know is that a Federal Agent was killed and that there is now a family without a Husband and Father.

Human life is so very precious and today (Easter) serves as a powerful reminder to me of sacrifices made for me by others.

Please let us be respectful of the dead and their family and keep them in our prayers.

[frankie_the_yankee]

It wouldn't surprise me if someone at FBI HQ or the DA's officer was trying to figure out a way to twist the law so as to pin the death on the bank robbery suspects - who reportedly didn't fire ANY rounds during this event - even though an FBI agent was the actual triggerman . . .

Ah, they wouldn't have to twist anything.

Ever hear of a crime called "felony murder"? Basically, if you're committing a felony, and someone dies because of it, the death is a homicide no matter how it happened, and you burn for it.

Like if you're running away from a bank you just tried to rob, and one of the cops chasing you slips on a banana peel and he hits his head on the sidewalk and dies, it's on you.

I've got no problem with that.

[Skiprr]

I doubt any of us will ever know exactly what occured outside of the bank.

What we do know is that a Federal Agent was killed and that there is now a family without a Husband and Father.

Human life is so very precious and today (Easter) serves as a powerful reminder to me of sacrifices made for me by others.

Please let us be respectful of the dead and their family and keep them in our prayers.

Well said, Jason. Well said.

Thank you.

[cyphur]

My thoughts are with the families up north. I used to have some close friends whose fathers were very active in that scene, just another three letter agency. Its a rough lifestyle.


+1 on felony murder, he'll burn for it - and rightfully so.

Basically the thought process behind it is, if it weren't for the offenders' actions, the situation would not have existed to facilitate the death. Since the offenders' actions presumable created said situation, they are responsible, whether they committed the homicide or not. FWIW, IANAL.

[srothstein]

Ever hear of a crime called "felony murder"? Basically, if you're committing a felony, and someone dies because of it, the death is a homicide no matter how it happened, and you burn for it.

Just so you know, that is an old myth and is not how the law actually reads (at least in Texas, I don't know about New Jersey).

It is not just if someone dies, but the person committing the felony must do something to directly cause the death. The act must be clearly dangerous to human life and then cause the death for it to be felony murder.

So, in a case like this, the bank robbers do not have to worry about a murder charge. If a person commits a robbery and the victim dies of a heart attack, they also would not have to worry. If a person commits a robbery and hits someone with the getaway car, then that is a felony murder of the type intended.

Penal Code definition at:
http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/do ... m#19.02.00