CHL instructor question??

[JacobK]

I really don't like to ask questions that I probably already know the answer too but as most of you know you need an instructors class before you can take your CHL instructors class, so my question is will the 2 day NRA Instructors pistol shooting course meet the qualification I need to take my CHL instructor class. Thanks for the help guys.

[Keith B]

I really don't like to ask questions that I probably already know the answer too but as most of you know you need an instructors class before you can take your CHL instructors class, so my question is will the 2 day NRA Instructors pistol shooting course meet the qualification I need to take my CHL instructor class. Thanks for the help guys.

Yes, that is one of the courses that is accepted prerequisite

[JacobK]

Thanks a lot, the class was filling up quick so I was curious as to if it was accepted.

[glock75]

+1. That is correct.

[RottenApple]

As far as I can tell, there are no prerequisites for becoming an instructor.

This would be incorrect.

GC §411.190. QUALIFIED HANDGUN INSTRUCTORS. (a) The director may certify as a qualified handgun instructor a person who:
(1) is certified by the Commission on Law Enforcement Officer Standards and Education or under Chapter 1702, Occupations Code, to instruct others in the use of handguns;
(2) regularly instructs others in the use of handguns and has graduated from a handgun instructor school that uses a nat ionally accepted course designed to train persons as handgun instructors; or
(3) is certified by the National Rifle Association of America as a handgun instructor.

[The_Busy_Mom]

As far as I can tell, there are no prerequisites for becoming an instructor.

SuperChief - In 2011, the rules were changed, and the official government code began requiring CHL Instructor candidates to have an accredited instructor class as a prerequisite to CHL Instructor certification. That rule had not been enforced until recently. For those of us who are now applying, we are being told by DPS that we need to provide proof of being able to meet the prerequisite. I am scheduled for my NRA Instructor's class so that I can take the CHL Instructor's class. I have a feeling that if you received your CHL in 2011 or later, you are probably going to have to get certified or DPS is going to have to figure out how to head off the 'selective enforcement' of the rules.

[Charles L. Cotton]

As far as I can tell, there are no prerequisites for becoming an instructor.

SuperChief - In 2011, the rules were changed, and the official government code began requiring CHL Instructor candidates to have an accredited instructor class as a prerequisite to CHL Instructor certification. That rule had not been enforced until recently. For those of us who are now applying, we are being told by DPS that we need to provide proof of being able to meet the prerequisite. I am scheduled for my NRA Instructor's class so that I can take the CHL Instructor's class. I have a feeling that if you received your CHL in 2011 or later, you are probably going to have to get certified or DPS is going to have to figure out how to head off the 'selective enforcement' of the rules.

Actually, that has been a requirement since SB60 passed in 1995 bring concealed-carry to Texas. It just wasn't enforced until recently and to be candid I think a lot of folks missed that part of SB60.

Chas.

[RX8er]

Actually, that has been a requirement since SB60 passed in 1995 bring concealed-carry to Texas. It just wasn't enforced until recently and to be candid I think a lot of folks missed that part of SB60.

Chas.

Wow, that's a while for them to overlook or miss something on the books. Chas, do you see them changing the requirement or having already certified instructors now go back and take an accredited instructor class in order to get their renewal? I can't see how they could only apply this to new instructor applications and not across the board.

[JacobK]

Well I filled out the CHL Instructors application form and sent everything in not knowing that you had to have a pre requisite class first. About 8 months went by without a peep from DPS and monday I got a call from an actual person and the only thing she had to say was "Did you apply by mistake?". After I explained that I did not apply by mistake and her response was that I would be placed in a pending class and I need to have proof of one of the NRA approved classes by april to proceed to the next instructors class. So needless to say I was scrambling to find a class that wasn't booked till july and I found one that had one opening left so next weekend Im taking the class.

[Charles L. Cotton]

Actually, that has been a requirement since SB60 passed in 1995 bring concealed-carry to Texas. It just wasn't enforced until recently and to be candid I think a lot of folks missed that part of SB60.

Chas.

Wow, that's a while for them to overlook or miss something on the books. Chas, do you see them changing the requirement or having already certified instructors now go back and take an accredited instructor class in order to get their renewal? I can't see how they could only apply this to new instructor applications and not across the board.

I know it seems that way, but everything was so hectic in 1995 when the program was getting set up. The NRA instructor requirement apparently was missed by the people running the program then and it's not surprising that no one went back a read the statute again. Everyone thought they were doing what was required.

I have no idea if instructors renewing will have to prove they are a certified instructor (NRA, TCLEOSE, or other). However, to be safe, every instructor should try to get an NRA certification before the end of the year. This is a statutory requirement and now that it's come to light so to speak, it's going to be hard for a state agency to ignore it. (No, I don't teach NRA instructor courses! )

Chas.

[MoJo]

Any instructor who needs NRA certification and doesn't mind a trip to Beaumont my friend Walt is a training counselor and he and I will be setting up some classes in the very near future. PM me or, e-mail mjones40@gt.rr.com to get on the list.

[bizarrenormality]

I don't see anything in the rule that let's them turn a blind eye to renewals and only enforce the requirement for new instructors. If they do, would the correct place to complain be the Governor or the Attorney Genera?

Or Lon Burnam?

[cbunt1]

I know it seems that way, but everything was so hectic in 1995 when the program was getting set up. The NRA instructor requirement apparently was missed by the people running the program then and it's not surprising that no one went back a read the statute again. Everyone thought they were doing what was required.

I have no idea if instructors renewing will have to prove they are a certified instructor (NRA, TCLEOSE, or other). However, to be safe, every instructor should try to get an NRA certification before the end of the year. This is a statutory requirement and now that it's come to light so to speak, it's going to be hard for a state agency to ignore it. (No, I don't teach NRA instructor courses! )

Chas.

I was under the impression that per-certification of candidates (e.g. TECLEOSE, or NRA) was the difference between whether we had to take the "long" or "short" instructor's class. At least according to the troopers in my class last January, two days of our class was to cover the material/training techniques that we would have been exposed to in NRA's program.

Or is that your point--that everyone supposed that the material was the requirement rather than the certification?

Either way, I'm looking to become an NRA certified instructor, however. It's good material, whether you teach firearms classes, or simply find yourself the unofficial "leader" in any situation.