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SB299
OK, lets see if I've got this right. SB299 passed the Senate with a vote of 28-2 and the House with 140-9. So this bill should be ready for the Governor. Will we need to wait until 1 Sept. or did it receive enough votes to be become effective when signed? Am I missing something?
Re: SB299
Section 39, Article III, Texas Constitution, provides that “No law passed by the Legislature, except the general appropriation act, shall take effect or go into force until ninety days after the adjournment of the session at which it was enacted, unless the Legislature shall, by a vote of two-thirds of all the members elected to each House, otherwise direct.” If an act does not specify an effective date, the act becomes effective on the 91st day after the date of final adjournment.
The Constitution preserves the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation where the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. James Madison
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Re: SB299
last sentence, it takes effect 1 Sept. I doubt it got enough votes to take effect immediately.
~Tracy
Gun control is what you talk about when you don't want to talk about the truth ~ Colion Noir
Gun control is what you talk about when you don't want to talk about the truth ~ Colion Noir
Re: SB299
While this is a great bill and gives us a defense to prosecution if you pull your gun where only force is necessary, I personally will still teach individuals that they should not pull a gun out to 'scare someone off' because the threat of force was presented but not to a level they felt they were in fear of serious bodily injury.Natesac wrote:So is this one headed to Rick's desk?
Also, would this bill necessitate a change in educating CHL's with display in regards to use of force?
The big advantage of this change is we will potentially have a little more advanced legal ability to present a firearm if we feel the situation is escalating rapidly to the point it will be needed.
Keith
Texas LTC Instructor, Missouri CCW Instructor, NRA Certified Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun Instructor and RSO, NRA Life Member
Psalm 82:3-4
Texas LTC Instructor, Missouri CCW Instructor, NRA Certified Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun Instructor and RSO, NRA Life Member
Psalm 82:3-4
Re: SB299
Keith B wrote:The big advantage of this change is we will potentially have a little more advanced legal ability to present a firearm if we feel the situation is escalating rapidly to the point it will be needed.

Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid.
John Wayne
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John Wayne
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Re: SB299
Really? To me, it sounds like it helps to avoid situations of unintentional failure to conceal a little better, like with Handog's situation.
I am not and have never been a LEO. My avatar is in honor of my friend, Dallas Police Sargent Michael Smith, who was murdered along with four other officers in Dallas on 7.7.2016.
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Re: SB299
Yes, it does that some, but the force portion is the big win. See Charles explainaiton here http://texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php? ... 05#p808286" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;C-dub wrote:Really? To me, it sounds like it helps to avoid situations of unintentional failure to conceal a little better, like with Handog's situation.
Keith
Texas LTC Instructor, Missouri CCW Instructor, NRA Certified Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun Instructor and RSO, NRA Life Member
Psalm 82:3-4
Texas LTC Instructor, Missouri CCW Instructor, NRA Certified Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun Instructor and RSO, NRA Life Member
Psalm 82:3-4
Re: SB299
Okay. That helps. I had missed that thread.Keith B wrote:Yes, it does that some, but the force portion is the big win. See Charles explainaiton here http://texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php? ... 05#p808286" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;C-dub wrote:Really? To me, it sounds like it helps to avoid situations of unintentional failure to conceal a little better, like with Handog's situation.
I am not and have never been a LEO. My avatar is in honor of my friend, Dallas Police Sargent Michael Smith, who was murdered along with four other officers in Dallas on 7.7.2016.
NRA Patriot-Endowment Lifetime Member---------------------------------------------Si vis pacem, para bellum.................................................Patriot Guard Rider
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