So, at what point do we require someone to be a citizen to register to vote? ......or do we simply allow anyone to vote regardless of citizenship? And if that is the case, tell me what my citizenship is worth?
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We have to sign a statement of citizenship. Therefore, it's on the honor system. Just trust that those that register to vote are truthful and honest.
Not sure what the purpose is to have people to register to vote.
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mojo84 wrote:We have to sign a statement of citizenship. Therefore, it's on the honor system. Just trust that those that register to vote are truthful and honest.
Not sure what the purpose is to have people to register to vote.
Exactly. And trust me, other countries which our "progressives" seek to emulate DO require someone to prove citizenship to vote.
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”
It seems to me the solution to Arizona's problem (and the other 49) is staring them in the face. Require proof of citizenship to obtain a drivers license/state issue ID card. The feds can't mess with that. If you want to issue drivers licenses to people who are not citizens, you're an idiot and you don't care about voting anyway. For those legal immigrants who are not yet citizens, create a special license that says NON-CITIZEN across its face in light, see-through lettering. Then cross check the voter rolls against the drivers license/state issued ID card registrations and voila! You ain't on em, you don't get to vote.
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Left Loses Big in Citizenship-Verification Supreme Court Case
Something perverse happened after the Supreme Court’s decision today invalidating citizenship-verification requirements in Arizona for registrants who use the federal voter registration form. The Left knows they lost most of the battle, but are still claiming victory. That’s what they do. Election-integrity proponents and the states are saying they lost, but don’t realize they really won.
The Left wins even when they lose, and conservatives are often bewildered and outfoxed in the election-process game.
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Worse, conservatives dooms-dayers who have never litigated a single National Voter Registration Act case have taken to the airwaves, describing the case as a disaster which invites illegal-alien voting.
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The Left essentially believes that anyone who fills out a federal Election Assistance Commission registration form should be allowed on the rolls, no questions asked.
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Election-integrity advocates are batting .800; left wing groups, .200. And the most insignificant issue of the five is the one issue the Left won. Justice Scalia foiled 4 of 5 of their goals, and the 4 biggest ones.
How does it work? The decision today uncorks state power. The Left wanted state power stripped and they lost.
First, Arizona can simply push the state forms in all state offices and online, and keep those federal forms in the back room gathering dust. When you submit a state form, you have to prove citizenship. Thanks to Justice Scalia, that option is perfectly acceptable. Loss for the Left. Victory for election integrity.
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Next, when voters use a state, as opposed to a federal, form, they can still be required to prove citizenship. The federal form is irrelevant in that circumstance.
After the decision today, states have a green light to do double- and triple-checking even if a registrant uses the federal form. The Left wanted the submission of a federal form to mean automatic no-questions-asked registration.
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Yesterday, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Arizona v. Inter Tribal Council of Arizona, Inc. that the federal "Motor Voter" law (the National Voter Registration Act of 1993) preempted Arizona's commonsense requirement that a person must present concrete evidence of citizenship before they are allowed to register to vote.
Since the right to vote is a fundamental building block of our nation's democratic process and it is crucial that we have the measures in place to uphold the integrity of our elections, Sens. Cruz and David Vitter (R-LA) filed an amendment to S. 744, the Senate Immigration Reform Bill, that would close the loophole in the "Motor Voter" law that preempts states from enforcing requirements that would ensure those registered to vote are U.S. citizens.
Wish they would attach a national constitutional carry amendment to it.
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Hey, if they are going to attach an amendment to a bill that has a chance of passing, might as well go all the way.
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Try to collect that social security that you have paid into your whole life without a birth certificate or passport or some really good form of ID. They have no problem taking it out of your check but they sure don't make it easy to collect. AZ made a mistake in making their voting law tougher than Federal. I like the idea of proof of citizenship for a drivers license or state ID, probably not a violation of Federal law.
Just remember one and all, the states administer the elections.
Outside of interference due to the Voting Rights Act being used as a bludgeon for leftist agendas in some states that have long since abandoned the sort of discrimination the Act was created to crush, there's not a whole lot the feds could legally tamper with.
The SCOTUS ruling served to reinforce the state's authority in elections and handed the left a booby prize for their efforts. They went for what was behind the curtain and got the ZONK.
Actually, the states are supposed to control and conduct the elections. The feds have found many ways to influence and exert pressure on the states with regard to the election process.
However, the laws and Constitution mean little to administration.
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