More evidence of why people don't trust the "system"

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VMI77 wrote:The fact that the vast majority of criminals on death row or in prison for life aren't dead, suggests that they'd rather be alive and in prison than dead.
Maybe. What if they believe that killing yourself is the ultimate sin? Even worse than killing others? You can ask forgiveness or say a few hail marys if you kill someone. You cannot ask forgiveness if you kill yourself.

The death penalty involves no pain. You simply go to sleep and never wake up. If we are going to truly make the death penalty work, we should kill them with as much pain as possible.
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03Lightningrocks wrote:
VMI77 wrote:The fact that the vast majority of criminals on death row or in prison for life aren't dead, suggests that they'd rather be alive and in prison than dead.
Maybe. What if they believe that killing yourself is the ultimate sin? Even worse than killing others? You can ask forgiveness or say a few hail marys if you kill someone. You cannot ask forgiveness if you kill yourself.

The death penalty involves no pain. You simply go to sleep and never wake up. If we are going to truly make the death penalty work, we should kill them with as much pain as possible.
Some may believe that but I tend to think the majority don't care about what is or is not a sin. Besides, there are plenty of ways to die in prison without committing suicide.

Since the Constitution prohibits "cruel and unusual" punishment I don't think killing with as much pain as possible will pass Constitutional muster.
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ummmmm.....cruel and unusual punishment is not okay. No where near.

Even if one supports the death penalty I don't think we need to bring back crucifixion or drawing and quartering or any other such gore.
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mamabearCali wrote:ummmmm.....cruel and unusual punishment is not okay. No where near.

Even if one supports the death penalty I don't think we need to bring back crucifixion or drawing and quartering or any other such gore.
Nobody said it was. It was a hypothetical post to make a point. One would need to read the several posts before that one to get it.
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WildBill wrote:
Abraham wrote:How many other folks are in prison that shouldn't be?
Too many. That may be a flippant remark, but what is the acceptable number for people in prison who are not guilty?
To paraphrase Thomas Jefferson:

Tis better that 100 guilty men go free than for one innocent man to be convicted.

Wish I could remember precisely.

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OldCurlyWolf wrote:
WildBill wrote:
Abraham wrote:How many other folks are in prison that shouldn't be?
Too many. That may be a flippant remark, but what is the acceptable number for people in prison who are not guilty?
To paraphrase Thomas Jefferson:

Tis better that 100 guilty men go free than for one innocent man to be convicted.

Wish I could remember precisely.

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OldCurlyWolf wrote:To paraphrase Thomas Jefferson:

Tis better that 100 guilty men go free than for one innocent man to be convicted.
Back then, they also believed it was better that 100 burglars be shot in the act than for a single homeowner to be injured by a burglar who turns violent.
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tbrown wrote:
OldCurlyWolf wrote:To paraphrase Thomas Jefferson:

Tis better that 100 guilty men go free than for one innocent man to be convicted.
Back then, they also believed it was better that 100 burglars be shot in the act than for a single homeowner to be injured by a burglar who turns violent.
I'm ok with that.
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