Any problem with an Out-of-State CCW for a Texas Resident?

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Any problem with an Out-of-State CCW for a Texas Resident?

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I moved to Texas 6 months ago and have a CCW from Nevada AND Utah.
Both are recognized by Texas but the question is: If I'm now a Texas resident
without a Texas CHL, will I have a problem if stopped by showing Out-of-State CCW's?

I plan on getting a CHL but until then, am I safe?

Thanks for the help,

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Welcome to the forum.
Questions:
Do you have a Texas DL? (If you have lived 6 months you should)
Are the addresses on the permits correct? (Do they match the address on that TX DL you obtained upon your move to TX)
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IANAL:

Isn't that what CC reciprocity is about? Your DL; OTOH,may be an issue if you don't get a Texas DL within the appointed time, which I think is 30 days.
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Got the Texas DL. Thing is, I've never seen any mention of having ONLY and Out-of-State CCW.

I guess I better speed up the Texas CHL process!

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ccslasvegas wrote:I moved to Texas 6 months ago and have a CCW from Nevada AND Utah.
Both are recognized by Texas but the question is: If I'm now a Texas resident
without a Texas CHL, will I have a problem if stopped by showing Out-of-State CCW's?

I plan on getting a CHL but until then, am I safe?

Thanks for the help,

Tom
Welcome to the forum.

You may get questioned if the officer doesn't know that you can posses a non-resident CHL, but I would just explain to them you moved and the Utah and Nevada are honored as non-resident permits in Texas. However, you must make sure you changed your address on your permits to reflect your Texas residency. Also, your Utah CFP will not be able to be renewed unless you have a Texas CHL. Utah changed the law a couple of years ago requiring all non-resident's to posses a license from their state of residency before they can get a non-resident Utah permit.
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Thanks Keith,
Good information. I'll be letting both CCW's go at renewal time. The Nevada CCW requires I go back to renew and that's not really something I want to spend money on. The Utah CCW renews with cash only but my traveling days are about over so that one will be a fail to renew also.

Two CCW's traded for one CHL sounds good to me!

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1. Your DLand permit address should match.

2. You are violating federal law transporting a firearm through a school zone unless the school zone is in a state that issued you a permit.

3. I carried for years living in TX but holding only a FL permit. Adults make choices.
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RoyGBiv wrote:1. Your DLand permit address should match.

2. You are violating federal law transporting a firearm through a school zone unless the school zone is in a state that issued you a permit.

3. I carried for years living in TX but holding only a FL permit. Adults make choices.
Not only a school zone, but isn't it within 1000'? Who even knows where all the schools are, and how many live within that distance of a school?
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MPA covers you in your car with or without a nonresident ccw permit. Outside your car you don't need a license to drive. I am not suggesting any particular course of action. I'm just making some observations.
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I think a person holding a CHL from another state, where it be resident or nonresident , should be able to get a TX CHL by just paying the fees. After all that is all one has to do to get TX drivers license. After all if TX thinks that other state qualifications are good enough to reciprocate CHL with then it should be good enough to issue a license.
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RoyGBiv wrote:2. You are violating federal law transporting a firearm through a school zone unless the school zone is in a state that issued you a permit.
I think this is the key issue. For example, if you live in the Dallas area, have fun driving through this gauntlet: http://ok2a.org/resources/fedgfsza/dallasgfsza.jpg
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ldj1002 wrote:I think a person holding a CHL from another state, where it be resident or nonresident , should be able to get a TX CHL by just paying the fees. After all that is all one has to do to get TX drivers license. After all if TX thinks that other state qualifications are good enough to reciprocate CHL with then it should be good enough to issue a license.
Should be and is are two different things. The classes have been shortened in time and there are no longer any renewal classes required, so moving the right direction. Unfortunately you currently must still take the Texas class to receive a license.
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Keith B wrote:
ldj1002 wrote:I think a person holding a CHL from another state, where it be resident or nonresident , should be able to get a TX CHL by just paying the fees. After all that is all one has to do to get TX drivers license. After all if TX thinks that other state qualifications are good enough to reciprocate CHL with then it should be good enough to issue a license.
Should be and is are two different things. The classes have been shortened in time and there are no longer any renewal classes required, so moving the right direction. Unfortunately you currently must still take the Texas class to receive a license.
You are correct, "Should be and is are two different things. However that would apply to drivers license qualifications from another state also, but it is still allowed.
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ldj1002 wrote:
Keith B wrote:
ldj1002 wrote:I think a person holding a CHL from another state, where it be resident or nonresident , should be able to get a TX CHL by just paying the fees. After all that is all one has to do to get TX drivers license. After all if TX thinks that other state qualifications are good enough to reciprocate CHL with then it should be good enough to issue a license.
Should be and is are two different things. The classes have been shortened in time and there are no longer any renewal classes required, so moving the right direction. Unfortunately you currently must still take the Texas class to receive a license.
You are correct, "Should be and is are two different things. However that would apply to drivers license qualifications from another state also, but it is still allowed.
When I moved here from NC I handed in my NC-DL, TOOK THE TX WRITTEN TEST and received my TX-DL.
The written test was, I assume, to demonstrate sufficient knowledge of Texas driving law.
It would be simple to have the same process for TX-CHL, although not politically possible at this time.
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ccslasvegas wrote:Thanks Keith,
Good information. I'll be letting both CCW's go at renewal time. The Nevada CCW requires I go back to renew and that's not really something I want to spend money on. The Utah CCW renews with cash only but my traveling days are about over so that one will be a fail to renew also.

Two CCW's traded for one CHL sounds good to me!

Tom
Once you have your Texas CHL it only cost $15 to renew Utah. I would not let it expire for that small amount. Just in case it gives you Ohio and Washington states that you Texas CHL does not cover. And, if not lightly but if your Texas license expires while you are waiting to receive your new one you'd be covered by Utah. Hence cheat insurance. Welcome to Texas. :cheers2: :txflag:

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