We may need to confirm this...

[stevie_d_64]

But I just saw on another forum that the NRA backed Improved NCIC check bill, that everyone is going ga-ga over just had something piggy backed on it...

The amendment to the original bill was to include McCarthy's (D-NY) Super-AWB that we've been watching for a while now...

This is to be confirmed, and if anyone knows the particulars if this is true or not, feel free to correct me if I heard wrong...

If its true, this is bad...If its not, then we have dodged a bullet this time...

I'll leave it to the imaginations of the forum to figure out how bad this could be if its true...

This appears to be breaking news at this time...

[jimlongley]

If McCarthy's bill gets added on and passed, we can kiss everything but muzzle loaders goodbye.

[seamusTX]

The easiest way to find out is to check http://www.nra-ila.org/. No news yet.

- Jim

[stevie_d_64]

The easiest way to find out is to check http://www.nra-ila.org/. No news yet.

- Jim

Have to keep our eyes peeled...

I can't believe this has slipped through without any foresight...

If it has, this is truely an underhanded and deliberate play on our sensibilities that obviously could have serious consequences...

I actually want to be really wrong on this, and hope I misinterpreted...

[Charles L. Cotton]

But I just saw on another forum that the NRA backed Improved NCIC check bill, that everyone is going ga-ga over just had something piggy backed on it...

The amendment to the original bill was to include McCarthy's (D-NY) Super-AWB that we've been watching for a while now...

This is to be confirmed, and if anyone knows the particulars if this is true or not, feel free to correct me if I heard wrong...

If its true, this is bad...If its not, then we have dodged a bullet this time...

I'll leave it to the imaginations of the forum to figure out how bad this could be if its true...

This appears to be breaking news at this time...

Where is this posted. I am trying to confirm or refute this information.

Chas.

[stevie_d_64]

Here's an update:

http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Feder ... px?id=3112

Notice the last sentence...

But I've still not heard if they actually did, or did not attach the McCarthy AWB bill...Since this announcement...

TBD...

[seamusTX]

Stuff gets swapped into and out of bills in Congress all the time. I generally don't worry about it. I'm represented by Ron Paul and Senators Hutchinson and Cornyn, who vote pro-RKBA nearly every time, so there's not much I can do.

- Jim

[Lucky45]

Here's an update:

http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Feder ... px?id=3112

1. This is a good read for clarification. And I notice alot of items that were discussed in this forum under another post.


2. Also, I think you are crying "wolf", because nowhere was it discussed about any laws being attached. THe NRA just stated their rightful opinion that if anything was attached that would withdraw their support, otherwise everything is fine in their books.


All quotes are Copyright 2007, National Rifle Association of America, Institute for Legislative Action.
This may be reproduced. It may not be reproduced for commercial purposes.

On June 13, the U.S. House of Representatives overwhelmingly passed H.R. 2640, the “NICS Improvement Act,� by a voice vote. H.R. 2640 is consistent with NRA’s decades-long support for measures to prohibit firearm purchases by those who have been adjudicated by a court as mentally defective or as a danger to themselves or others. Additionally, H.R. 2640 makes needed, and long overdue, improvements to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS).

Decades-long huh!?!? hmmm.

Those blocked from buying a gun due to these newly provided and updated records in the NICS are already prohibited under current law from owning firearms.
The basic goal of the bill is to make NICS as instant, fair, and accurate as possible. While no piece of legislation will stop a madman bent on committing horrific crimes, those who have been found mentally incompetent by a court should be included in the NICS as they are already prohibited under federal law from owning firearms. H.R. 2640 is sound legislation that makes numerous improvements over existing federal law, including:

Certain types of mental health orders will no longer prohibit a person from possessing or receiving firearms. Adjudications that have expired or been removed, or commitments from which a person has been completely released with no further supervision required, will no longer prohibit the legal purchase of a firearm.

Excluding federal decisions about a person’s mental health that consist only of a medical diagnosis, without a specific finding that the person is dangerous or mentally incompetent. This provision addresses concerns about disability decisions by the Veterans Administration concerning our brave men and women in uniform.

Requiring all participating federal or state agencies to establish “relief from disability� programs that would allow a person to get the mental health prohibition removed, either administratively or in court. This type of relief has not been available at the federal level for the past 15 years.

Neither current federal law, nor H.R. 2640, would prohibit gun possession by people who have voluntarily sought psychological counseling or checked themselves into a hospital:

Current law only prohibits gun possession by people who have been “adjudicated as a mental defective� or “committed to any mental institution.� Current BATFE regulations specifically exclude commitments for observation and voluntary commitments. Records of voluntary treatment also would not be available under federal and state health privacy laws.

Similarly, voluntary drug or alcohol treatment would not be reported to NICS. First, voluntary treatment is not a “commitment.� Second, current federal law on gun possession by drug users, as applied in BATFE regulations, only prohibits gun ownership by those whose “unlawful [drug] use has occurred recently enough to indicate that the individual is actively engaged in such conduct.�

In short, neither current law nor this legislation would affect those who voluntarily get psychological help. No person who needs help for a mental health or substance abuse problem should be deterred from seeking that help due to fear of losing Second Amendment rights.

[stevie_d_64]

Not so much "wolf", but trying to make sure I put enough eyes and ears on it to (like Charles said) refute...

The source was a Free Republic discussion, and the person who mentioned this was someone I trust...And if I and a whole bunch of other people misinterpreted the data, then at least we jumped on it to figure it out...

I'd rather do that, than just say, "Oh, look at that, how nice..."

Right???

Still looks like somethings in the works...We'll see...I'll be the first one to say "false alarm", "mea culpa"...If thats the case...

[stevie_d_64]

Got an email from the source...

It was a misinterpretation...There was a discussion that talked about a "Schumer" amendment that was introduced at one time, and the thought was that it was the McCarthy AWB bill that was inserted into this NCIC bill...

No one could really confirm that as a fact, and since the NRA, and no one else has seen this as yet, it might very well be an "oops"...

I think we're good...'cept me...

I apologize if I got anyones bowels in an uproar...

I'll slink away for a while... Or not...

[stevie_d_64]

Mods, you can lock the thread if you like...