ACP and CHL

[Glockster]

Does anyone here have any experience with obtaining their CHL while as a participant in the Address Confidentiality Program (ACP)? If so, would like to know how you/they handled the "current address" - did you use your ACP address (which is your legal resident address for any govt. agency in TX)?

[Keith B]

Does anyone here have any experience with obtaining their CHL while as a participant in the Address Confidentiality Program (ACP)? If so, would like to know how you/they handled the "current address" - did you use your ACP address (which is your legal resident address for any govt. agency in TX)?

Not 100% sure, but believe your CHL would have the same address as your drivers license, i.e. your ACP address.

[Glockster]

That's what I am hoping to hear, and I do have my ACP address on my license. And they do already have my DL info they can access. But this reminds me of another question I'd asked about needing to provide my DD-214 to prove veteran status. That same DPS that seemingly cannot talk from one side to the other (DL to CHL, where they already have verified my veteran status when issuing my DL) is the same one that will need to look at my DL record and then go, "oh, that's why he has a PO box as his legal residence."

[Keith B]

That's what I am hoping to hear, and I do have my ACP address on my license. And they do already have my DL info they can access. But this reminds me of another question I'd asked about needing to provide my DD-214 to prove veteran status. That same DPS that seemingly cannot talk from one side to the other (DL to CHL, where they already have verified my veteran status) when issuing my DL) is the same one that will need to look at my DL record and then go, "oh, that's why he has a PO box as his legal residence."

You can always call them and ask the quesiton.

[Glockster]

Roger that. But after what I went through with the DL, confidence isn't high that I would get the right answer. It took four DPS folks plus a supervisor to figure out how to issue my license, and I would think that they would have much more experience with it than the DPS in the CHL area.

I've not yet started my CHL app...but doubt that they have a block to include your ACP number.

[bigity]

Do you not have a DD-214? Did you register a copy with the county when you were separated?

[Glockster]

Do you not have a DD-214? Did you register a copy with the county when you were separated?

Not entirely sure what you're meaning to ask? But yes, I have a DD-214 (actually have several). No, didn't register a copy with any county where I may have been living at the time as that's not really all that useful, at least to me (that tends to be beneficial IF you still reside in that county, and I have been out for 25 years now and definitely don't). In my above though I was referring to that when I got my TX DL I had to bring a DD-214 to prove veteran status to the DPS, and I had asked awhile ago in a separate thread whether I'd have to do the same with a CHL license, since they are DPS and DPS already has verified my veteran status.

It was interesting that as I brought my DD-214 with me to get my DL changed for the ACP, they said they didn't need it because DPS had already verified that status and they could confirm that in the DPS system. You'd sure think then that since they will be in that same system for your CHL, that they wouldn't need to have you again submit your DD-214 for the CHL application.

[Keith B]

Do you not have a DD-214? Did you register a copy with the county when you were separated?

Not entirely sure what you're meaning to ask? But yes, I have a DD-214 (actually have several). No, didn't register a copy with any county where I may have been living at the time as that's not really all that useful, at least to me (that tends to be beneficial IF you still reside in that county, and I have been out for 25 years now and definitely don't). In my above though I was referring to that when I got my TX DL I had to bring a DD-214 to prove veteran status to the DPS, and I had asked awhile ago in a separate thread whether I'd have to do the same with a CHL license, since they are DPS and DPS already has verified my veteran status.

It was interesting that as I brought my DD-214 with me to get my DL changed for the ACP, they said they didn't need it because DPS had already verified that status and they could confirm that in the DPS system. You'd sure think then that since they will be in that same system for your CHL, that they wouldn't need to have you again submit your DD-214 for the CHL application.

With the CHL application, you are best to include your DD-214 along with it. They will require it only to give you the discount and put the word 'Veteran' on your CHL if you want it. if you don't want the discount or the special wording, then juut apply regularly and ignore the DD-214 requirement.

[bigity]

Do you not have a DD-214? Did you register a copy with the county when you were separated?

Not entirely sure what you're meaning to ask? But yes, I have a DD-214 (actually have several). No, didn't register a copy with any county where I may have been living at the time as that's not really all that useful, at least to me (that tends to be beneficial IF you still reside in that county, and I have been out for 25 years now and definitely don't). In my above though I was referring to that when I got my TX DL I had to bring a DD-214 to prove veteran status to the DPS, and I had asked awhile ago in a separate thread whether I'd have to do the same with a CHL license, since they are DPS and DPS already has verified my veteran status.

It was interesting that as I brought my DD-214 with me to get my DL changed for the ACP, they said they didn't need it because DPS had already verified that status and they could confirm that in the DPS system. You'd sure think then that since they will be in that same system for your CHL, that they wouldn't need to have you again submit your DD-214 for the CHL application.

With the CHL application, you are best to include your DD-214 along with it. They will require it only to give you the discount and put the word 'Veteran' on your CHL if you want it. if you don't want the discount or the special wording, then juut apply regularly and ignore the DD-214 requirement.

This is what I was getting to. If you have one, send in a copy (it doesn't have to be a certified copy, only a copy of one - mine went in electronically). It will only help.

[Glockster]

Yes, understand about sending in the DD-214. But my point about that is that I don't "like" having to do that, pretty much because someone isn't doing their job. By that I mean, I believe that the law doesn't say that I have to resubmit things to DPS twice. I have already proven my veteran status to DPS for my DL. It is in their system. When you submit your CHL application, you provide your DL. I'm pretty sure that they actually confirm my DL by looking it up. Which means that they have, right there and then, also have access to verification of veteran status. It is the same DPS. Which means that according to the letter of the law, I believe that I have already met the requirement to provide documentation necessary. We shouldn't have to prove something twice to the same agency, is my point.

But I'm probably a bit touchy right now because of having to deal with the ACP related issues. Case in point -- banks. Tried to change my address with them, but their system won't allow for a PO box because they say that isn't a legal residence. Well, except that in any state that has an ACP program, it is. Legal enough that the law says that the address given to me by the TX AG is my residence for any govt. agency in TX. But banks are not required to comply with the ACP law. So imagine the fun in having to prove your address to a bank when the document that they require, your DL, only has an address that they won't accept (and that's just their policy/rule, which they could of course change any time).

But this is moving away from my original question a bit. I'm still hoping that someone here has already gone down the CHL trail while in the ACP program so that I can find out if it went as expected for them.

[bigity]

The DPS (and most government agencies) cover alot of ground. All the groups don't necessarily talk to each other or exchange information.

Sending in the form helps you - who's to say if they had to go search in another database there wouldn't be some other problem from more chances for human error?

Just doesn't seem like a big deal to me.

[AlaskanInTexas]

Am I the only one who clicked on this post hoping for a robust discussion of the merits of 1911s as carry weapons?

[txglock21]

I have not personally gone through this, but ALL government entities are required to accept it as your residence. It is not required by non-government entities, such as banks, etc. They can, but not required. All this to say, you can use it as your address when applying for your CHL and they must accept it. As for sending in a copy of your DD214, yes, you need send either a physical copy or electronic copy depending on the method you apply with. You may not like it, but that's the way it is. Like Keith said, you don't HAVE to, but you won't qualify for the discount and/or having "veteran" printed on your license. Good luck and sorry for your headache with the bank.

[txglock21]

Am I the only one who clicked on this post hoping for a robust discussion of the merits of 1911s as carry weapons?

No your not the only one. I did too.

[Glockster]

The DPS (and most government agencies) cover alot of ground. All the groups don't necessarily talk to each other or exchange information.

Sending in the form helps you - who's to say if they had to go search in another database there wouldn't be some other problem from more chances for human error?

Just doesn't seem like a big deal to me.

Agree....but, they verify your license as part of processing your CHL, therefore they have access to the record which includes indication of verified veteran status. So they aren't searching in another database, just the same one in which they verify your license (and address, residency, etc.).