Scenarios?

[LedJedi]

You know, I was just thinking on the way to work that it would be a really nice idea to have a forum here dedicated to helping new folks understand the laws that apply to them. I know that's a lot of what this whole site was about, but I was talking about a more structured section where we post scenarios and then show the law that applies to those scenarios.

Speaking as an educator, adults especially, are much more likely to retain the key information from a scenario based learning situation than just plopping down dry laws in front of them.

Here's an example of what we might do:

Scenario: You need to run into a store to pick up a few odds and ends and you're carrying with your CHL license. The store is your basic 7-11 and does not have a 30.06 sign, but they sell alcohol. Is it legal for you to carry in the store or are you compelled to leave your gun in the car?

Answer: No, it is not illegal to carry in the store. The store does sell alcohol, but it is illegal to consume said alcohol on the premises. The only thing that would stop you from legally carrying is a posted 30.06 sign.

Scenario: You stop at a liquor store to pick up a few drinks. The store is not posted 30.06. Are you legally allowed to carry in the store with a CHL?

Answer: Yes, it is legal to carry in the store. The store does sell alcohol, but it is illegal to consume said alcohol on the premises. The only thing that would stop you from legally carrying is a posted 30.06 sign.

Scenario: You hear something from your back yard. You go to investigate the noise and see someone pushing your lawn mower that was parked beside your garage out your back gate. Are you legally justified to use deadly force?

Answer: Since the lawnmower was parked outside the garage it's considered theft. Deadly force is only justified in the night time and when deemed immediately necessary. Should it be immediately necessary and if it were night time deadly force would be legally justified. However, if it were daytime deadly force would not be justified, only measures of standard force.

Scenario: You hear something from your back yard. You go to investigate the noise and see someone pushing your lawn mower that was parked inside your garage out your back gate. Are you legally justified to use deadly force?

Answer: Since the lawnmower was parked inside the garage it's considered burglary and deadly force is justified if immediately necessary.

You would probably want to give links to the Texas Property Code or Texas Penal Code where applicable and have a nice big disclaimer that this is not legal advice. I do think it would go a long way in educating folks about what is and is not appropriate.

Note: I could be wrong on some of the scenario stuff, i'm not sure about the burglary thing in the garage, but you get the idea.

[MoJo]

I don't think it would be all that helpful. Too much conjecture.

[Venus Pax]

I think it would be helpful. There are fine lines within the law as to when deadly force is and isn't appropriate. Most of us don't speak legalese well, but we understand scenarios.

[stevie_d_64]

Not sure if we need a "dedicated" topic folder for any "what ifs"...

We pretty much take that stuff as we see it in the other threads...It gets discussed, debated, followed up, and closed out when everyone beats it to death...

Its almost like the CHL Badge issue... woops...

Charles Steve

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LT Steve

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Pick a member Steve

[pbandjelly]

^

in the back of your CHL Lawbook, it has plenty of FAQ's for CHL, like the church thing.
I mean, we could have a seperate thing for just what-ifs. could be fun.

we could just stuff allllllllllllllllllllll day.
see who could make the longest post (that no one reads all of...)