Oklahoma, live round in chamber question.

[TacShot]

In Oklahoma, is a CHL allowed to carry or transport a concealed handgun with a live round in the chamber?

[Kalrog]

This seems like a strange question... We have reciprocity with OK http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administra ... rocity.htm

And if you can carry, why would you NOT be allowed to have a round in the chamber? I no of no state that allows CHL carry but requires it to be put into club mode.

[Texasdoc]

I would say Yes but you might want to check this site out for the laws in OK.

http://www.nraila.org/statelawpdfs/OKSL.pdf


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[Keith B]

I thought the Barney Fife rule only applied in Mayberry, North Carolina, but maybe OK has it too.

[WildBill]

I thought the Barney Fife rule only applied in Mayberry, North Carolina, bu maybe OK has it too.

It's really not such a strange question. If California was "Right to Carry" not only would the chamber have to be empty, but you would have to have a child-proof trigger lock, and the ammo would have to be carried in a locked container.

[TacShot]

This seems like a strange question... We have reciprocity with OK http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administra ... rocity.htm

And if you can carry, why would you NOT be allowed to have a round in the chamber? I no of no state that allows CHL carry but requires it to be put into club mode.

Thanks for your response. Are you suggesting that by TX having reciprocity with OK, TX CHL laws and OK CHL laws are identical ?

[WildBill]

IANAL - Back to being serious. Just because of reciprocity does not mean State's laws are the same. It fact, I would guess that there are no two states that have identical laws. The receprocity means that they will honor the license, but you still have to obey the laws of the state that you are in. There are different laws about informing LEO and where you can carry. There are also differences in the DF statutes that you need to be aware.

That is why you need to review the laws yourself before traveling to that particular state, like the link that texasdoc posted. The people on the forum are excellent resources for information but IMO you need to get the laws directly from the state that issues the license.

[Kalrog]

This seems like a strange question... We have reciprocity with OK http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administra ... rocity.htm

And if you can carry, why would you NOT be allowed to have a round in the chamber? I no of no state that allows CHL carry but requires it to be put into club mode.

Thanks for your response. Are you suggesting that by TX having reciprocity with OK, TX CHL laws and OK CHL laws are identical ?

That is not what I am suggesting. There are differences. But if you will read the final sentence of what I wrote you will get my point. If you have a Texas CHL, then you can legally carry in OK. And since I don't know of any state where CHL is legal that requires the chamber to be empty, you are legal in OK with a round in the chamber.

[TacShot]

Thanks again for all the help. Someone sent this to me, and not being a lawyer, I had to ask the question:

TITLE 21 § 1289.13. Transporting a loaded firearm
TRANSPORTING A LOADED FIREARM
Except as otherwise provided by the provisions of the Oklahoma Self-
Defense Act or another provision of law, it shall be unlawful to transport a
loaded pistol, rifle or shotgun in a land borne motor vehicle over a public
highway or roadway. However, a rifle or shotgun may be transported clip or
magazine loaded and not chamber loaded when transported in an exterior locked
compartment of the vehicle or trunk of the vehicle or in the interior
compartment of the vehicle notwithstanding the provisions of Section 1289.7 of
this title when the person is in possession of a valid handgun license pursuant to
the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act.

[Lumberjack98]

Thanks again for all the help. Someone sent this to me, and not being a lawyer, I had to ask the question:

TITLE 21 § 1289.13. Transporting a loaded firearm
TRANSPORTING A LOADED FIREARM
Except as otherwise provided by the provisions of the Oklahoma Self-
Defense Act or another provision of law, it shall be unlawful to transport a
loaded pistol, rifle or shotgun in a land borne motor vehicle over a public
highway or roadway. However, a rifle or shotgun may be transported clip or
magazine loaded and not chamber loaded when transported in an exterior locked
compartment of the vehicle or trunk of the vehicle or in the interior
compartment of the vehicle notwithstanding the provisions of Section 1289.7 of
this title when the person is in possession of a valid handgun license pursuant to
the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act.

This is from the Oklahoma Firearms Act of 1971.

TITLE 21 § 1290 is the Oklahoma Self Defense Act. Without reading it, I'm fairly certain that it will contain language that a license holder is not held to that section of 1289.

Check out the statutes here:

http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/i ... 21&level=1

[frankie_the_yankee]

The Oklahoma Self Defense Act is the title given to their "shall issue" CHL law.

IANAL, and I haven't read the Act, but there is no way on Earth it prohibits carrying a concealed handgun with a round in the chamber.

As has been suggested, review the law yourself, primarily to familiarize yourself with the list of prohibited places, the legal requirements for a place to be posted "no guns", and things like that.

As for carry mode, do whatever you are comfortable with. Any carry mode legal in TX will be legal there too.

[TacShot]

Sorry for all the confusion on this issue. As I said I was concerned about carrying in a vehicle. With your help, I found the answer in the secons section quoted below:

TITLE 21 § 1289.13. Transporting a loaded firearm
TRANSPORTING A LOADED FIREARM
Except as otherwise provided by the provisions of the Oklahoma Self-
Defense Act or another provision of law, it shall be unlawful to transport a
loaded pistol, rifle or shotgun in a land borne motor vehicle over a public
highway or roadway. However, a rifle or shotgun may be transported clip or
magazine loaded and not chamber loaded when transported in an exterior locked
compartment of the vehicle or trunk of the vehicle or in the interior
compartment of the vehicle notwithstanding the provisions of Section 1289.7 of
this title when the person is in possession of a valid handgun license pursuant to
the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act.

TITLE 21 § 1289.7. Firearms in vehicles
FIREARMS IN VEHICLES
Any person, except a convicted felon, may transport in a motor vehicle a
rifle, shotgun or pistol, open and unloaded, at any time. For purposes of this
section “open� means the firearm is transported in plain view, in a case designed
for carrying firearms, which case is wholly or partially visible, in a gun rack
mounted in the vehicle, in an exterior locked compartment or a trunk of a
vehicle.

Any person, except a convicted felon, may transport in a motor vehicle a
rifle or shotgun concealed behind a seat of the vehicle or within the interior of
the vehicle provided the rifle or shotgun is not clip, magazine or chamber
loaded. The authority to transport a clip or magazine loaded rifle or shotgun
shall be pursuant to Section 1289.13 of this title.

Any person who is the operator of a vehicle or is a passenger in any vehicle
wherein another person who is licensed pursuant to the Oklahoma Self-Defense
Act, Sections 1 through 25 of this act, to carry a concealed handgun and is
carrying a concealed handgun or has concealed the handgun in such vehicle,
shall not be deemed in violation of the provisions of this section provided the
licensee is in or near the vehicle.

[KBCraig]

Any carry mode legal in TX will be legal there too.

Except that you can't carry anything larger than .45 caliber (not a concern for at least 99% of people), and you can only carry one at a time. No BUGs allowed.

Or is that NM that only allows you to carry one gun at a time?

[Thane]

Or is that NM that only allows you to carry one gun at a time?

I dunno about OK, but yes, NM restricts carry to one gun. Take lots of reloads.

[KBCraig]

Ah, thanks. I had a niggling doubt that it was NM. I couldn't find anything in the Oklahoma Self Defense Act about only carrying a single gun, but their statutes aren't nearly as simple as those of Texas.