American Airlines and Parkland Hospital

Post by **carlson1** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:48 pm

Does anyone know if these are a no no

for CHL's?

jimlongley · Post by **jimlongley** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 7:17 am

I'm getting to the point where I think American Airlines is just a No-No anyway.

In January they lost my bag.

This morning I arrived for my flight from Columbus OH back to DFW, scheduled for 8:14am the last time I checked, online, last night.

Now it's cancelled, due to bad icing in Dallas according to the idiot at the counter. And supposedly it was cancelled last night "when I left at 5" again according to the idiot at the counter.

Last night, according to my wife, there was still no ice in Dallas, and according to Intellicast.

The airport web site and monitors still show the flight as "On Time" and American's web site showed it "On Time" last night after 10pm eastern when I tried to do an online check in. It would not let me do the online check in, but would only say that a "problem has occurred" and referred me for regular check in.

Since January I have earned "Diamond" status with Best Western, have accumulated enough FF miles with Southwest for one free flight, and have only had problems with American Airlines.

They didn't get too excited when I took my gun with me (in my checked bag) a couple of weeks back.

bauerdj · Post by **bauerdj** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 7:51 pm

Not to defend American, but the "severe icing" probably refers to conditions aloft. All modern transport aircraft are equiped with anti icing devices but conditions can be so sever that they can't keep up. Temperature drops 2 deg per 1000 ft of altitude.

Post by **carlson1** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 7:56 pm

Thanks for the response, but I should probably had made this more clear. I was asking about the American Airlines Center and Parkland Hospital in Dallas. Not the Airlines itself. Sorry

jimlongley · Post by **jimlongley** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 12:37 pm

Just to add, I got home yesterday afternoon to discover that AA had left a message, the night before, at my home, that my flight from Columbus to home had been cancelled. Sure makes sense to me. They had my cell phone number and email, plus I have signed up for email updates on flight status, never received a call or email where I was.

Only American seemed to have any problems with icing, other flights left CMH for DFW at the same one as the one that they cancelled more than 12 hours before, including one about two hours later than the scheduled one, and it an Embrear, not an S-80.

I am VERY dissatisfied with AA.

AG-EE · Post by **AG-EE** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:43 pm

The AAC is owned by the city of Dallas, so if there isn't a sporting event going on, they cannot bar you. Last time I was there (for a Mav's game), there were no 30.06 signs, but they were using metal detectors (it was a sports event anyway so I wasn't carrying).

Post by **carlson1** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:56 pm

OK they wand you, find the weapon, then what?

AG-EE · Post by **AG-EE** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:52 am

Good question...I don't know. There was similar conjecture in another thread regarding the Ft. Worth stock show. Charles would be a better person to answer that than me...but I wouldn't think they could do anything except ask you to leave, which would be unlawful for them to do so, but that hasn't stopped the .gov before.

I have never been to the AAC during anything other than a Stars' or Mav's game, so I don't know if they turn off the detectors or not.

bluelineman · Post by **bluelineman** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 8:24 pm

Hospitals are a no-no (supposed to have the 30.06 sign, but don't be a test case).

AAC is a no-no for professional sporting events per the TX tules. I don't know about other events.

Post by **carlson1** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 8:27 pm

bluelineman wrote:Hospitals are a no-no (supposed to have the 30.06 sign, but don't be a test case).

AAC is a no-no for professional sporting events per the TX tules. I don't know about other events.

The Hospital is ONLY a no-no if they POST the 30.06. By the way Welcome to the Texas CHL Forum.

cjlandry · Post by **cjlandry** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 9:49 pm

jimlongley wrote:Just to add, I got home yesterday afternoon to discover that AA had left a message, the night before, at my home, that my flight from Columbus to home had been cancelled. Sure makes sense to me. They had my cell phone number and email, plus I have signed up for email updates on flight status, never received a call or email where I was.

Only American seemed to have any problems with icing, other flights left CMH for DFW at the same one as the one that they cancelled more than 12 hours before, including one about two hours later than the scheduled one, and it an Embrear, not an S-80.

I am VERY dissatisfied with AA.

Sorry, I know this is about the AA center, but I just had the same experience with the phone call. Fortunately I was in the living room when they called my home to let me know that my 7:23am flight was delayed until 8:35am on Saturday because the crew was late arriving in Corpus Friday night, and are required a certain number of downtime hours for sleep before they can fly again. (This is what I was told)

But I bring my Glocks in my checked baggage every time I fly, and I've had no trouble with them.

Hiya Bluelineman! I think I've seen you around somewhere else before.

bluelineman · Post by **bluelineman** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:38 am

carlson1 wrote:
bluelineman wrote:Hospitals are a no-no (supposed to have the 30.06 sign, but don't be a test case).

AAC is a no-no for professional sporting events per the TX tules. I don't know about other events.
The Hospital is ONLY a no-no if they POST the 30.06. By the way Welcome to the Texas CHL Forum.

Correct, but I wouldn't want to be the test dummie in court.

Thanks for the welcome!

bluelineman · Post by **bluelineman** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:40 am

cjlandry wrote: Hiya Bluelineman! I think I've seen you around somewhere else before.

Hey! Nice to see a few familiar faces around here.

Post by **carlson1** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 1:54 am

bluelineman wrote:
carlson1 wrote:
bluelineman wrote:Hospitals are a no-no (supposed to have the 30.06 sign, but don't be a test case).

AAC is a no-no for professional sporting events per the TX tules. I don't know about other events.
The Hospital is ONLY a no-no if they POST the 30.06. By the way Welcome to the Texas CHL Forum.
Correct, but I wouldn't want to be the test dummie in court.

Thanks for the welcome!

I am not for sure why you think it would be a court case if they are not posted. Can you enlighten me a little please? It is my understanding that hospitals used to be completely off limits, but now they are like any other place, they must post the 30.06 just like Churches etc. . .

cjlandry · Post by **cjlandry** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:24 am

carlson1 wrote: I am not for sure why you think it would be a court case if they are not posted. Can you enlighten me a little please? It is my understanding that hospitals used to be completely off limits, but now they are like any other place, they must post the 30.06 just like Churches etc. . .

Here's the actual wording:

"(i) Subsections (b)(4), (b)(5), (b)(6), and (c) do not apply if the actor
was not given effective notice under Section 30.06."

You might get to be the test court case if it was one of those that says "It is a defense to prosecution....", but in this case it simply does not apply.

Just remember that, if someone verbally tells you that "you're not allowed to carry here", you've been given notice. You can't argue with them that "Yes, I can, because you don't have the 30.06 sign". (Not to mention the fact that you've obviously failed to conceal).