Carrying at work off the clock

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Post by longtooth »

I would not hesitate to be in the place I worked, armed, on my own time, shopping or what ever business I had. I am more than a little independent. Don't know if they can do anything about it. Salery may be different that clock puncher. Bottom line is let you concious be your guide & keep it quiet. If you still have holster trouble wear a heavy cover. ;-)
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Post by Kalrog »

evil_smurf wrote:The place is not posted 30.06.
Then if you have never received the legally required notification that you are not legally allowed to carry even with your CHL... you can LEGALLY carry there whenever you want. Of course since you are violating a company policy (at least if you do so while on the clock), you could be fired for it. But you cannot be arrested for it as you have broken no laws.

So the question is - does company policy apply even when you aren't on the clock? My guess would be yes. But I know that concealed means concealed.
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Post by Crossfire »

Here is my personal experience, which may not apply to everyone. Cabela's does not allow employees to carry at work. (They just don't get the whole CHL thing, being based in anti-gun Nebraska.) However, they do NOT post a 30.06 sign to keep customers with CHLs out.

So, even if you are an employee, if you aren't on the clock and not wearing an employee shirt, you can shop there all day long with your concealed carry.
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Post by texag06 »

I have to agree with llwatson. I believe that, for hourly employees, if you are not on the clock, then you are just another customer and should be treated as such. However, as longtooth stated, salaried workers may be a different story....
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Post by rspeir »

I've wondered about this to and just looked at the regs. They indicate that a permit holder is in violation if given oral or written communication. If your employer tell you that you can't carry and you do, my reading is that you would be in violation. Written communication is defined as being the §30.06 language. That tells me that if it's in, say, the employee handbook, if it's not the §30.06 language, it isn't valid and wouldn't be a violation. Not saying that they can't fire you.
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Post by nitrogen »

Here's how I see it.
1) Concealed means concealed, so they shouldn't find out.
2) if you're in a situation where your weapon should not be concealed, losing your job will be the least of your wories.

My workplace has a policy stating "no weapons", but i'm in a small sales office, and nobody seems bothered; it's an open secret that i'm "the gun guy". I get people asking me gun questions off hours, etc.
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Post by Venus Pax »

Have you considered a locking safe for your trunk? When your going in or leaving work, you simply cover your gun up with a jacket or towel while making the transfer to or from the cab.
This concealment option should be enough to keep anyone from finding it. And if they insist you open the box, the fact that you have it locked up could be enough to help you retain your employment.
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Post by mrvmax »

Just remember that they can fire you for any reason since texas is an at will employer state (besides discrimination -age, race, religion etc.). You would notbe breaking the law, but they could still fire you.
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Post by Corona »

Here's my take. Unless it's a fully complaint 30.06 location or they've verbally informed you, you are not in violation of the law.

However, some companies (including the one I work at) have a no weapons on company property clause in their handbook. As everyone is typically required to sign an acknowledgement about reading the handbook and saying you will abide by it - the company could have grounds to terminate your employment, whether you're on the clock or not. Really it's up to your employer, your relationship with your boss(es), and how they really came to know you were carrying off the clock, yet on premises.

So if caught, you may not be guilty of breaking the law - but you may be out of a job. For some, that's an acceptable risk.
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