I Found A GREAT DeSantis IWB Holster!

Patriot · Post by **Patriot** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 5:13 pm

Try this link out if you are looking for a good one size fits most IWB holster. I just received mine Friday and it works great with my Bersa .380, Ruger 9mm, and my Baby Eagle 40 S&W. It's very low profile and has little bulk. It has either the snapped belt strap or the belt clip. I bought the belt clip and love it! They are tuckable too!

Check it out >>>>>> http://www.desantisholster.com/005.html

Mithras61 · Post by **Mithras61** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 5:22 pm

I think I prefer one that allows me to get a full grip on my weapon to draw it (looks like it sits pretty low behind the belt), and covers the trigger while in the holster...

KBCraig · Post by **KBCraig** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:43 pm

Ummm.... no thanks. A tuckable holster with an exposed trigger?

Patriot · Post by **Patriot** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:49 pm

Well... I carry my Bersa and my Baby Eagle with it and having the trigger exposed isn't a problem with those guns because of the superior safety mechanisms on them . But if I carried different... I would agree. Plus, the entire grip is exposed and a very concealed carry and at the same time an easy draw. But to each their own I guess.

P/S -- Work on your sarcasm KB, it just doesn't work for you! HAHA!

jbirds1210 · Post by **jbirds1210** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:09 pm

I have to agree with KB...it looks dangerous. Have you carried it for a long time?
Jason

KBCraig · Post by **KBCraig** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:42 pm

Patriot wrote:P/S -- Work on your sarcasm KB, it just doesn't work for you! HAHA!

I would take that as advice, if I had been being sarcastic.

I wasn't. No way would I carry that rig.

Kevin

Patriot · Post by **Patriot** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:05 pm

Aw shucks KB... I'm sorry then. I thought you were. My bad.

As for being dangerous... why? Because it doesn't cover the trigger except on one side? Maybe I'm confused. I have only had my CHL for a short time, yet I've been around and have had guns most of my life. Someone be a little more specific why it's dangerous. IMHO, if a gun, like my Bersa and my Baby Eagle, has an extra safety feature on it that does not allow the gun to fire if the safety is on (even if there is a bullet chambered) even when pulling the trigger... it's safe. As long as the safety is ON. However, I do not carry chambered with this holster. With my other IWB and OWB holsters... I do.

So... someone please explain to me how any of this is dangerous. I really want to know. Plus, if it was so dangerous, why are they selling it? I admit, if I were a newbie, then maybe it wouldn't make much sense I guess. I dunno...

KRM45 · Post by **KRM45** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:20 pm

Patriot wrote: However, I do not carry chambered with this holster. With my other IWB and OWB holsters... I do.

So... someone please explain to me how any of this is dangerous.

I think you answered your own question. If you don't think it's dangerous, why don't you carry with a round in the chamber?

Carrying a gun without a round in the chamber sounds dangerous to me...

cyphur · Post by **cyphur** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:21 pm

Whats the point of carrying a gun that isn't loaded? A full clip doesn't do you any good if you don't have the opportunity to chamber a round when the time comes. You don't buy a fire extinguisher thats empty, then try to fill it when you need to put out a kitchen fire?

I'll be carrying cocked and locked, and I'm going to carry confident that my trigger is covered. I'm suprised that since you already carry this way in other holsters, that you would choose to carry this way with this one.

Patriot · Post by **Patriot** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:44 pm

Well... I guess I'm wrong. So, I suppose I'm the only one that carries both chambered and unchambered huh? That seems impossible. I was taught to chamber while drawing... but that's old school I suppose.

I was simply sharing a GOOD holster .... that's all! If you don't like it.... don't buy it. I never even imagined I'd get this response. Foolish me I guess.

Later.........................

Post by **carlson1** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:28 am

Retired Texas Ranger Stuart Dowell who was a dear friend of mine before he passed away this past May told me one time "if it is not dangerous why carry it."

Mithras61 · Post by **Mithras61** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:54 am

Patriot wrote:Well... I guess I'm wrong. So, I suppose I'm the only one that carries both chambered and unchambered huh? That seems impossible. I was taught to chamber while drawing... but that's old school I suppose.

I was simply sharing a GOOD holster .... that's all! If you don't like it.... don't buy it. I never even imagined I'd get this response. Foolish me I guess.

Later.........................

I don't believe anyone intended offense. If I offended, I apologize. Personally, I just don't like the idea of carrying with the trigger uncovered by the holster. It's something that strikes me as a safety issue, and my folks were so safety conscious when I was growing up that they drilled safety on everything, every chance they got. Safety became a habit that is hard to violate even when violating it makes sense.

You wouldn't BELIEVE the mental anguish I went through about carrying cocked & locked. I couldn't figure out a different way that made good sense to me though, so I carry with a round in the chamber, hammer cocked & safety on. I know that with that configuration, the trigger can't be pulled (it's a 1911A1), but it is still a sensitive issue. It may only take a second to rack the slide when the firearm is required, but that may be a second I don't have.

I'm not comfortable with the idea of a tuckable holster that doesn't cover the trigger (I have visions of untucking to draw & shooting myself in the leg as my shirt pulls the trigger). I just can't see the unprotected trigger as a safety concern that makes sense to violate. There are too many holsters that cover the trigger and stress how much safer it is to carry that way for me to believe it isn't at least of some concern.

As to how low it sits in the pants, the only thing I have to go by is the photos on their site. It looked to me like the handgun was so deep that the grip was partially occluded. Maybe it wasn't, or maybe it was & the picture lies about how it sits, but I can't tell that from the photo.

longtooth · Post by **longtooth** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:24 am

Right on mithras61. Not only is the second needed to rack the slide one that you might not have, also the hand you need to do it with may well be full of BG trying to defend self in a close encounter.
Good post.

Patriot · Post by **Patriot** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:27 am

Not at all Mithras... I appreciate your input.

Maybe it's because I've never had to draw, and pray that I never will, that I see draw and slide as acceptable. Truly I know that 'time is of the essence' in any possible scenerio.

One of the awesome things about this holster though is that it is so very covert, even with a tucked in T-shirt (which BTW - the shirt only tucks in about 2 1/2" and doesn't go over the trigger). I have belt slides and IWB slide holsters that are good, just not as concealable. I know that if the safety somehow gets taken off, then an exposed trigger is dangerous. But to date, that hasn't happened... and don't foresee it happening... but anything is possible I suppose.

I will take in everyones advise and also contact the DeSantis company and quiz them too. Let's see what their "logic" is from a sellers standpoint.

Thanks again and chat at ya later.

j1132s · Post by **j1132s** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:55 pm

Patriot, thanks for sharings the holster info. I'm always interested in decent cheap holsters; frankly, IMHO the current prices for many holsters are way too high.

If you are comfortable carrying w/ the holster then that's all it matters. I don't think personally, I'd use something that doesn't cover my trigger, but that's just me. I also don't think it is safe to carry the 1911 model too.

I think an important operating mode is to be consistent. If you sometimes carry w/ a round chambered and sometimes dont, you may get confused and do stupid things like chambering a new round when there's already a round or (worse) forgetting to chamber a round and keep pulling that DA trigger.

I had experienced something like that, but it was only at an IPSC match. Prior to the match, I've been practicing my Sig's DA trigger so I'd fire a couple of rounds and decock and fire more. Well, during the match, I don't know why, but I hit the decocker when I should be pulling on the trigger. So, I guess the old saying that under stress, you automatically follow your practice is true (at least for me).