Scarborough Faire

[pnctar]

The SO and I are heading out tomorrow to join in the fun ... this is their policy, publicly posted online ... 51% and 30.06

http://www.srfestival.com/weapons-polic ... olicy.html

Will see if they also have it posted at the gate (ticket) counter "before" entering. Haven't been since 1999 but, I'm still looking foward to it.

[srothstein]

That is interesting. The proper wording in English for a 30.06 notice. Does a website count as a "document"? If not, it doesn't have to be one inch or in Spanish and would count.

And the alcoholic beverage warning is really confusing. It includes references to the ABC section on non-51% (61.11) and the Penal Code on 51% (46.035). Obviously, we only need to worry about one of them, but since 30.06 only applies to CHL, I don't know if they have been determined to be 51% or not (bet not, but they could be).

[apostate]

That is interesting. The proper wording in English for a 30.06 notice. Does a website count as a "document"? If not, it doesn't have to be one inch or in Spanish and would count.

Don't they have to give the document to the person for it to count as notice? If not, I can just picture some business printing the proper wording on an 8.5x11" piece of paper and dropping it into a file cabinet somewhere.

Feeling devious (or sleepy... there's a fine line) I suppose they could print those words on the back of your entry ticket, and that would be notice.

[srothstein]

Yes, they have to give it to you or provide you the notice somehow. But in this case, the OP now has been notified since he said he read the web site (as have I been). I know that proving it might be harder than a properly posted sign, but it does make for an interesting academic thought on the law. And yes, printing the proper words on the back of the ticket would definitely count as notice, IMHO.

[Keith B]

Last I knew, they were properly posted at the Waxahachie location.

And, if you go to the link and click on Food and Kitchens, the slide show that plays has a photo of my ugly mug tipping my hat. We were at a King's Feast celebration a few years ago and they got that shot.

[Bullwhip]

Last I knew, they were properly posted at the Waxahachie location.

DAughter went last month, said they have a big notice (she thought was legit) at Waxahachie.

[pnctar]

Spent most the day out there and had a great time, though I ate to much ... lol.

Right out front, before you buy tickets, is a stand alone sign with a proper 30.06. Hard to miss. I believe they would be considered an amusement park as well.

[Thomas]

Spent most the day out there and had a great time, though I ate to much ... lol.

Right out front, before you buy tickets, is a stand alone sign with a proper 30.06. Hard to miss. I believe they would be considered an amusement park as well.

Does it also have the Spanish wording? Because the notice on the website does not.

[hirundo82]

Right out front, before you buy tickets, is a stand alone sign with a proper 30.06. Hard to miss. I believe they would be considered an amusement park as well.

Does it also have the Spanish wording? Because the notice on the website does not.

Only signs are required to have both English and Spanish. The language on the website is sufficient notice for a document.

[Thomas]

Right out front, before you buy tickets, is a stand alone sign with a proper 30.06. Hard to miss. I believe they would be considered an amusement park as well.

Does it also have the Spanish wording? Because the notice on the website does not.

Only signs are required to have both English and Spanish. The language on the website is sufficient notice for a document.

I forgot I had to look that up. Thank you.

However:

"Written communication" means:
(A) a card or other document on which is written language
identical to the following: "Pursuant to Section 30.06, Penal Code
(trespass by holder of license to carry a concealed handgun), a person
licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code (concealed
handgun law), may not enter this property with a concealed
handgun"; or

The text is not identical on the website.

[hirundo82]

The text is not identical on the website.

You're right that it is not identical, but it is extremely close:

Texas Penal Code:

Pursuant to Section 30.06, Penal Code (trespass by holder of license to carry a concealed handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code (concealed handgun law), may not enter this property with a concealed handgun

Fair website:

Pursuant to section 30.06, Penal Code (Trespass by Holder of a License to Carry a Concealed Handgun) a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, government code (Concealed Handgun Law), may not enter this property with a concealed handgun

Ignoring punctuation, the only differences I see (and the only ones Word finds) are the ones I underlined--an additional "a" in the fair's website, and a missing comma. While I'm a big advocate of "the code says 'identical'" I'm not sure I would quibble with such small differences.

[Keith B]

Spent most the day out there and had a great time, though I ate to much ... lol.

Right out front, before you buy tickets, is a stand alone sign with a proper 30.06. Hard to miss. I believe they would be considered an amusement park as well.

Not an amusement park as they are not open more than 120 days a year. And, even if they did meet the requirements, amusement parks must post a 30.06 to prohibit carry.

[Kythas]

Ignoring punctuation, the only differences I see (and the only ones Word finds) are the ones I underlined--an additional "a" in the fair's website, and a missing comma. While I'm a big advocate of "the code says 'identical'" I'm not sure I would quibble with such small differences.

I wouldn't quibble about that, either. They're posted with a huge sign right out front and I'd say it's a valid sign.

While lawyers might argue that it's not identical due to the additional "a", I doubt a jury would find that grounds for acquittal. Personally, I'd hate to take that chance.

[WildBill]

Ignoring punctuation, the only differences I see (and the only ones Word finds) are the ones I underlined--an additional "a" in the fair's website, and a missing comma. While I'm a big advocate of "the code says 'identical'" I'm not sure I would quibble with such small differences.

I wouldn't quibble about that, either. They're posted with a huge sign right out front and I'd say it's a valid sign.

While lawyers might argue that it's not identical due to the additional "a", I doubt a jury would find that grounds for acquittal. Personally, I'd hate to take that chance.

It sounds like a good time was had by all.

[pnctar]

It sounds like a good time was had by all.

We had a great time!!!

and for everyone else ... it is a "perfect" 30.06 sign. Spanish, English, block letters in black on white, 1" tall.

Shoulda, woulda, coulda taken a pic ... sorry.