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Post by RockingRook » Wed Aug 17, 2011 2:59 pm

This may be covered somewhere but can't find it. So I will ask it here.

Just came back from Pappadeaux, took my wife to lunch.

We sat in a booth just opposite the bar. Restaurant was crowded and that was the only booth.

The restaurant does not have any signs whatsoever but I turned around
and put my gun in the car.

The bar area has stools around the bar. We were not seated there but no more than 6 feet from the bar.
I did not feel comfortable carrying in that situation.

What do you all say? Is it legal or not to sit there?

Secondly, suppose I wanted to have a beer with my lunch. While carrying is consumption of
one beer legal? I was told that if a situation comes about where I had to use my gun any alcohol
level is considered a No No.

While carrying is consumption of one beer considered ok or not?

I have never drank any alcohol at all while I was out with my gun. I have not been carrying that long,
two months, but I have always wondered about that.

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Post by The Mad Moderate » Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:05 pm

So long as there is not a 51% sign or a 30.06 sign you are good to carry.
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Post by Teamless » Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:09 pm

it is legal to carry there, and at the bar at outback and at any other restaurant that does not make 51% of its business via sales of alcohol for on premise consumption.

Basically if it is a restaurant first, and has a bar, you should be legal, just watch for either the BLUE sign or the RED sign.
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Post by Kirk » Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:12 pm

Congrats on the CHL!

TABC say Pappadeaux is under a blue gun sign so carry on and some where there should be a sign. Took me a while at Hut's in Austin to find one. I checked ahead of going so I knew it was OK.

Alcohol & guns don't mix, have a nice glass of iced tea. I made a choice to carry so its nonalcoholic drinks when eating out.

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Post by The Annoyed Man » Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:15 pm

Totally legal. If there is no 30.06 sign posted, it depends on whether they derive more or less than 51% of their income from the sale of alcohol for on-premises consumption. The bar is not off limits to you, but being intoxicated is. So, carry your gun, enjoy dinner, avoid alcohol, and have a good time.
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Post by RockingRook » Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:18 pm

The Annoyed Man wrote:Totally legal. If there is no 30.06 sign posted, it depends on whether they derive more or less than 51% of their income from the sale of alcohol for on-premises consumption. The bar is not off limits to you, but being intoxicated is. So, carry your gun, enjoy dinner, avoid alcohol, and have a good time.
Thanks for the info. I will continue to avoid any alcohol.

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Post by gigag04 » Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:59 pm

I worked for the company for almost 4 years. It's not 51% nor is any other restaurant.
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Post by tacticool » Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:02 pm

RockingRook wrote:I was told that if a situation comes about where I had to use my gun any alcohol
level is considered a No No.
That's a choice you're going to have to make unless you give up alcohol (and many prescription medicines) completely. If you have a beer at home, do you unload all your firearms and lock them in a safe? The same principles apply.
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Post by tommyg » Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:50 pm

Guns and alcohol are a bad mix

Vehicles and Alcohol are a bad mix

Don't mix them order a soft drink with your meal or an iced tea
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Post by Skiprr » Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:30 pm

Proximity to the bar makes no difference.

As for having a drink with dinner, give a read to these previous Topics:

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Post by rdcrags » Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:15 pm

I guess I am in the minority here. At least once a month, we go out for a fix of Tex Mex. Keeps the old system functioning. I always have one Corona, or original Coors if in Colorado. Am I the driver? Of course. Am I carrying? Of course.
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Post by wgoforth » Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:23 pm

loadedliberal wrote:So long as there is not a 51% sign or a 30.06 sign you are good to carry.
Someone correct me if I am wrong (actually, even w/o saying that someone would!).... but even if a bar fails to display the 51% sign as they should, it is you the CHL holder who has the responsibility of not going. Unlike 30.06, which is business optional, actual bars are an auto no-go for CHL holders. Always check the liquor license on their wall.
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Post by apostate » Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:44 pm

wgoforth wrote:
loadedliberal wrote:So long as there is not a 51% sign or a 30.06 sign you are good to carry.
Someone correct me if I am wrong (actually, even w/o saying that someone would!).... but even if a bar fails to display the 51% sign as they should, it is you the CHL holder who has the responsibility of not going. Unlike 30.06, which is business optional, actual bars are an auto no-go for CHL holders. Always check the liquor license on their wall.
It is a defense to prosecution if the TABC licensee fails in their duty to post the required signs. Make of that what you will.


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Post by tommyg » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:02 pm

One of the 10 commandments of gun safety is don't mix alcohol with guns

If you carry don't drink at all you are better off
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Post by kjolly » Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:05 am

I've never carried and drank. Average consumption may be 1 beer every three months and that might have been used in cooking. Is one beer going to turn a person into a mad dog killer. I hope not, but as I said I've always respected the rule.
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