CHL as ID (Pass) for TSA?
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CHL as ID (Pass) for TSA?
Not planning on flying anytime soon, or if ever again. But I know all of us hate the TSA and their "Feel" Good procedures.
Why can't we get a Nationwide movement going to allow bypass of all TSA security (& delays) by simply presenting our CHL (or other similar States permits)?
After all, we are certified Good Guys with a complete FBI background check. Why can't this be used for air travel (and/or ALL SECURITY) within the USA?
Not only would it help us, it would also thin out the line for those that do not have one.
Why can't we get a Nationwide movement going to allow bypass of all TSA security (& delays) by simply presenting our CHL (or other similar States permits)?
After all, we are certified Good Guys with a complete FBI background check. Why can't this be used for air travel (and/or ALL SECURITY) within the USA?
Not only would it help us, it would also thin out the line for those that do not have one.
Alan - ANYTHING I write is MY OPINION only.
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Re: CHL as ID (Pass) for TSA?
Showing your CHL at a TSA checkpoint today is just asking to be detained. I have heard one CHL'er had that happen here in DFW (and the souce was VERY reliable.)AEA wrote:Not planning on flying anytime soon, or if ever again. But I know all of us hate the TSA and their "Feel" Good procedures.
Why can't we get a Nationwide movement going to allow bypass of all TSA security (& delays) by simply presenting our CHL (or other similar States permits)?
After all, we are certified Good Guys with a complete FBI background check. Why can't this be used for air travel (and/or ALL SECURITY) within the USA?
Not only would it help us, it would also thin out the line for those that do not have one.
Keith
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Re: CHL as ID (Pass) for TSA?
Maybe you misunderstood me.
I am not advocating showing your CHL and expecting to pass thru today.
I am asking for a Federal exemption for CHL Holders that would become standard procedure with TSA. Once that is in place, then and only then, your CHL would be accepted as a pass.
After the Federal exemption is passed and implemented it would go something like this.......
Show CHL/Boarding Pass. TSA say's "thank you, pass this way"....... which would be around all further screening.
I am not advocating showing your CHL and expecting to pass thru today.
I am asking for a Federal exemption for CHL Holders that would become standard procedure with TSA. Once that is in place, then and only then, your CHL would be accepted as a pass.
After the Federal exemption is passed and implemented it would go something like this.......
Show CHL/Boarding Pass. TSA say's "thank you, pass this way"....... which would be around all further screening.
Alan - ANYTHING I write is MY OPINION only.
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Given the number of antis who are part of government today, I cannot imagine this happening anytime soon. There is no way that they will support giving benefits to any gun owner, let alone a CHLer. Our very existence is an anathema to them.
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Re: CHL as ID (Pass) for TSA?
No because that actually might make sense and cost less $$ and anyone watching can tell that our gov't does whatever it can to make any dealing with them as much of a hassel as possible and cost as much $$ as possible.
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Re: CHL as ID (Pass) for TSA?
Did he have a prominent mustache?Keith B wrote:Showing your CHL at a TSA checkpoint today is just asking to be detained. I have heard one CHL'er had that happen here in DFW (and the souce was VERY reliable.)AEA wrote:Not planning on flying anytime soon, or if ever again. But I know all of us hate the TSA and their "Feel" Good procedures.
Why can't we get a Nationwide movement going to allow bypass of all TSA security (& delays) by simply presenting our CHL (or other similar States permits)?
After all, we are certified Good Guys with a complete FBI background check. Why can't this be used for air travel (and/or ALL SECURITY) within the USA?
Not only would it help us, it would also thin out the line for those that do not have one.

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Re: CHL as ID (Pass) for TSA?
chasfm11 wrote:Given the number of antis who are part of government today, I cannot imagine this happening anytime soon. There is no way that they will support giving benefits to any gun owner, let alone a CHLer. Our very existence is an anathema to them.


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Re: CHL as ID (Pass) for TSA?
How many legal guns have been brought through security "by accident" so far?
"I didn't realize it was still in my purse/backpack/briefcase/etc."
There's no way we'll see a CHL "pass" line without bag check.
Perhaps the best we can hope for is reduced secondary screening.
Also.... It would not be difficult, given the growth of domestic radicalization, for a "concealed BG" to get a permit.
Another reason we'll never see a CHL pass without bag check.
"I didn't realize it was still in my purse/backpack/briefcase/etc."
There's no way we'll see a CHL "pass" line without bag check.
Perhaps the best we can hope for is reduced secondary screening.
Also.... It would not be difficult, given the growth of domestic radicalization, for a "concealed BG" to get a permit.
Another reason we'll never see a CHL pass without bag check.
I am not a lawyer. This is NOT legal advice.!
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Oh well. I guess it just makes too much sense.......
OK, Thanks for the comments!
OK, Thanks for the comments!

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Re: CHL as ID (Pass) for TSA?
Texas officials won't even recognized the CHL as a valid, primary form of ID and often will still require a DL. I think that would be the first hurdle to overcome if we want Federal (TSA) recognition of the CHL as an ID and any derived benefits.
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Re: CHL as ID (Pass) for TSA?
I'd settle for CHL allowing acces the the "first class only" line.AEA wrote:Oh well. I guess it just makes too much sense.......
OK, Thanks for the comments!

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Re: CHL as ID (Pass) for TSA?
I'd settle for CHL allowing access in the "First Class Only" cabin!Bulldog1911 wrote:I'd settle for CHL allowing acces the the "first class only" line.AEA wrote:Oh well. I guess it just makes too much sense.......
OK, Thanks for the comments!

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Re: CHL as ID (Pass) for TSA?
I have a TWIC card processed by the TSA and background checked by the FBI and they didn't accept it even though they say on their website it a valid ID for travel!
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Re: CHL as ID (Pass) for TSA?
Once I had to argue with them that my US passport and social security card was good enough for an id. They wanted a drivers license which had been stolen two days before (along with the rest of my wallet). I had to explain to these gentlemen that yes a US passport is a gov't issued ID, and it carries more than enough weight to stand in for a drivers license. These guys are not the brightest bulbs in the box.
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Years ago had the same "discussion" with a convenient store attendant while trying to purchase beer. Had a valid/current out of state DL (had just moved here that week) and a valid/current US passport, but they weren't too swift.mamabearCali wrote:Once I had to argue with them that my US passport and social security card was good enough for an id. They wanted a drivers license which had been stolen two days before (along with the rest of my wallet). I had to explain to these gentlemen that yes a US passport is a gov't issued ID, and it carries more than enough weight to stand in for a drivers license. These guys are not the brightest bulbs in the box.
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