Brandishment?

[bmcdou6528]

I have been lerking in the fringes reading posts since i got my CHL about a year ago, this is my first real post.

Went into Bass Pro looking for a IWB holster for a Taurus PT-145. Clerk behind the counter was willing to help, but had no real knowledge. She told me i could bring the gun in and trial fit it into what they had. she told me I could register the gun at the entrance, or if I was a CHL, just go ahead and wear it in. therein lies the question, if I wear the gun locked and loaded into the store concealed, and then bring it into the open to trail fit a holster, would that be considered brandishment?

Also anyone carry the PT-145, and what IWB holster do you use?

[RoyGBiv]

would that be considered brandishment?

Also anyone carry the PT-145, and what IWB holster do you use?

1. AFAIK, in Texas, there's no such thing as "brandishing". If you are in a privately owned place and you get verbal consent, you can do pretty much anything.... That said... It would be both dangerous and "bad form" to test holsters in a public store using a "locked and loaded" weapon. Better form would be to unload the weapon in the parking lot (check the chamber), load an empty magazine in it and carry the loaded magazine in your back pocket. For ME, if I planned to use the weapon for testing holsters inside the store, I would bring it (unloaded) in the case and check it in through their security. YMMV

2. As for holster recommendations... you'll need to give us some info about how you think you might like to carry. Strong side, SOB, AIWB, tuckable, straight drop, canted, etc. There are a myriad of choices, and what works perfectly for me might not work at all for you depending on body shape, attire, etc.

Welcome to the forum..

[bmcdou6528]

thanks for the quick response. i would never trial fit a loaded weapon. that is definately asking for problems.

i am looking for an IWB tuckable strong side, 3 to 5 o'clock holster

[Excaliber]

would that be considered brandishment?

Also anyone carry the PT-145, and what IWB holster do you use?

1. AFAIK, in Texas, there's no such thing as "brandishing". If you are in a privately owned place and you get verbal consent, you can do pretty much anything.... That said... It would be both dangerous and "bad form" to test holsters in a public store using a "locked and loaded" weapon. Better form would be to unload the weapon in the parking lot (check the chamber), load an empty magazine in it and carry the loaded magazine in your back pocket. For ME, if I planned to use the weapon for testing holsters inside the store, I would bring it (unloaded) in the case and check it in through their security. YMMV

2. As for holster recommendations... you'll need to give us some info about how you think you might like to carry. Strong side, SOB, AIWB, tuckable, straight drop, canted, etc. There are a myriad of choices, and what works perfectly for me might not work at all for you depending on body shape, attire, etc.

Welcome to the forum..

Even better would be to bring the gun in a case as you suggest, but with the slide locked back and no magazine in it to make clear to all that it is not loaded.

A magazine will not affect the fit of a concealed carry holster.

[RPB]

Simplest safest way to test fit a Taurus PT-145 in a holster at Bass Pro
is if Bass Pro actually sells Taurus PT-145
then use Bass Pro's display Taurus PT-145 to test fit in a holster you want to buy.
If they don't have a Taurus PT-145, perhaps they have a model in the same sized Taurus
It's easier with Glocks which come in only a few sizes and shapes
(Kidding, I have both Glocks and Taurus, both are good guns; currently I have more Taurus than Glocks as I sold most of my older Glock Gen 1s and 2s and buying more Gen 3s)

[RoyGBiv]

A magazine will not affect the fit of a concealed carry holster.

Depends... If the mag has an extension, or a finger support, etc, that would definitely affect concealment, assuming he's actually planning to try it on and not just fitting the gun int the holster.

[E.Marquez]

While we do not have a law that covers “brandishing , what you would be dealing with is “failure to conceal”
You could come in with the gun concealed, and go in to the bathroom. Remove, unload and clear then bring it in to the main store area.. but that only works if the store does not have some sort of check in at the front door.

Me? Id carry a different gun that day, and bring the one in question in a gun rug or hard case.
Last choice, disarm in your car, unload and clear.

[alvins]

just have one of the gun counter guys stand with you while u try holsters.most people in the gun section are their to look at guns.most other people stay away.i once brought in my brand new rifle to have them help with me some scope rings and such.since it was a model bass pro would never carry the employees were all gawking at it when i brought it in.

[Jim Beaux]

A magazine will not affect the fit of a concealed carry holster.

Depends... If the mag has an extension, or a finger support, etc, that would definitely affect concealment, assuming he's actually planning to try it on and not just fitting the gun int the holster.

And comfort. While wearing an IWB Crossbreed imitation the plastic finger extension rubbed a raw spot. A light application of 400 grit sandpaper done the trick.

[JJVP]

would that be considered brandishment?

Also anyone carry the PT-145, and what IWB holster do you use?

If you are in a privately owned place and you get verbal consent, you can do pretty much anything.

I am sure that is not correct. Please quote law that says that.

[fickman]

would that be considered brandishment?

Also anyone carry the PT-145, and what IWB holster do you use?

If you are in a privately owned place and you get verbal consent, you can do pretty much anything.

I am sure that is not correct. Please quote law that says that.

Privately owned doesn't matter. . . it's still in public. I wouldn't intentionally fail to conceal. The easy solution is to conceal a different gun than the one you want to fit / accessorize. There's a lot of intentionally failing to conceal that I see at the smaller gun shops. . .

On the other topic, failing to conceal is different than brandishing. Brandishing carries a connotation of using to threaten through display. The word itself may not be in the Texas penal code, but neither is "rape". Even though the words may not be present, both activities are well covered.

[sjfcontrol]

There is an argument that even private locations (like private residences) are not immune to intensional failure laws for non-residents. Its just that there's no way for an officer to find out unless someone rats you out. So, technically, if you have a CHL, you cannot go to your friends house, and compare guns.

[WildBill]

There is an argument that even private locations (like private residences) are not immune to intensional failure laws for non-residents. Its just that there's no way for an officer to find out unless someone rats you out. So, technically, if you have a CHL, you cannot go to your friends house, and compare guns.

Another rational for open carry laws?

[C-dub]

Simplest safest way to test fit a Taurus PT-145 in a holster at Bass Pro
is if Bass Pro actually sells Taurus PT-145
then use Bass Pro's display Taurus PT-145 to test fit in a holster you want to buy.
If they don't have a Taurus PT-145, perhaps they have a model in the same sized Taurus
It's easier with Glocks which come in only a few sizes and shapes
(Kidding, I have both Glocks and Taurus, both are good guns; currently I have more Taurus than Glocks as I sold most of my older Glock Gen 1s and 2s and buying more Gen 3s)

This gets my vote because this is also what I do when looking for a holster.

[Weg]

No comment on the brandishing deal.... but, I carried a PT140 in a Galco Professional for awhile and really liked it. In fact, when I carry my Airweight that is what I carry it in also.