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Looking to buy a Ruger Mini-14 or the Mini-30.
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That's probably a good choice right about now.
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Passed on a mini 14 for $625 at the gun show last week. May regret that later.
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jmra wrote:Passed on a mini 14 for $625 at the gun show last week. May regret that later.
Yup, I did the same at Walmart last week...almost did, then when I decided it was gone.
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Re: WTB: Mini 14 or Mini 30

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The Annoyed Man wrote:That's probably a good choice right about now.
if ban was too happen it would be affected also right --- or you just stating right about now cause of ar prices?



I have a ranch rifle i would consider selling

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PBR wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:That's probably a good choice right about now.
if ban was too happen it would be affected also right --- or you just stating right about now cause of ar prices?



I have a ranch rifle i would consider selling
If you decide, let me know plz.
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PBR, I mean both. With the looming AWB, there are no ARs to be found. If I'm not mistaken, the original Mini-14 was Ruger's attempt to get into the competition for the light caliber battle rifle, which was eventually won by Stoner's design. They are notoriously nowhere near as accurate as a decent AR, but they have good practical accuracy, meaning good enough to get the job done, and I don't recall any particular reliability issues. It's based on a design which is VERY reliable......the Garand/M14 action......not identical, but similar. It's a scaled down Garand in the action, but its gas system is not like any of the U.S. service rifles.

Anyway, it's not an AR, so it might be easier to find than an AR, and it still shoots the caliber. About the ban, the only thing we know is that the rifles are to be named. We have to pass it first so that we can know what's in it.....because that's how democrats do business.....but I digress....

But if I had to bet, my guess would be that a Ruger Mini-14 would just slide in under the radar because it has never really been heavily marketed as a tactical rifle. They sold some to police departments and correctional departments, but the vast majority were sold in the civilian market to people who threw them in the back of the truck as a ranch rifle. A few people hunted with them because, well, isn't a ranch rifle/truck gun just a lightweight hunting rifle? Most of them have wood stocks, no pistol grip, no flash hider, no shoulder thing that goes up, no "sniper scope," and just plain iron sights. What's not to like?
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The Annoyed Man wrote:PBR, I mean both. With the looming AWB, there are no ARs to be found. If I'm not mistaken, the original Mini-14 was Ruger's attempt to get into the competition for the light caliber battle rifle, which was eventually won by Stoner's design. They are notoriously nowhere near as accurate as a decent AR, but they have good practical accuracy, meaning good enough to get the job done, and I don't recall any particular reliability issues. It's based on a design which is VERY reliable......the Garand/M14 action......not identical, but similar. It's a scaled down Garand in the action, but its gas system is not like any of the U.S. service rifles.

Anyway, it's not an AR, so it might be easier to find than an AR, and it still shoots the caliber. About the ban, the only thing we know is that the rifles are to be named. We have to pass it first so that we can know what's in it.....because that's how democrats do business.....but I digress....

But if I had to bet, my guess would be that a Ruger Mini-14 would just slide in under the radar because it has never really been heavily marketed as a tactical rifle. They sold some to police departments and correctional departments, but the vast majority were sold in the civilian market to people who threw them in the back of the truck as a ranch rifle. A few people hunted with them because, well, isn't a ranch rifle/truck gun just a lightweight hunting rifle? Most of them have wood stocks, no pistol grip, no flash hider, no shoulder thing that goes up, no "sniper scope," and just plain iron sights. What's not to like?
It did pass under the radar during the Clinton gun ban.
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from what i see and read on this new proposal is that it wont slide under it --- anything with a detachable mag or capable of more than 10 rounds will fall into it -- yea ar's are going crazy right now thats why i was wondering what you meant -- i actually have a new ar im thinking on listing just cause i know can get a decent price for it right now -- brand new and havent even sighted it in yet -- only the test shoot through it
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wgoforth wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:PBR, I mean both. With the looming AWB, there are no ARs to be found. If I'm not mistaken, the original Mini-14 was Ruger's attempt to get into the competition for the light caliber battle rifle, which was eventually won by Stoner's design. They are notoriously nowhere near as accurate as a decent AR, but they have good practical accuracy, meaning good enough to get the job done, and I don't recall any particular reliability issues. It's based on a design which is VERY reliable......the Garand/M14 action......not identical, but similar. It's a scaled down Garand in the action, but its gas system is not like any of the U.S. service rifles.

Anyway, it's not an AR, so it might be easier to find than an AR, and it still shoots the caliber. About the ban, the only thing we know is that the rifles are to be named. We have to pass it first so that we can know what's in it.....because that's how democrats do business.....but I digress....

But if I had to bet, my guess would be that a Ruger Mini-14 would just slide in under the radar because it has never really been heavily marketed as a tactical rifle. They sold some to police departments and correctional departments, but the vast majority were sold in the civilian market to people who threw them in the back of the truck as a ranch rifle. A few people hunted with them because, well, isn't a ranch rifle/truck gun just a lightweight hunting rifle? Most of them have wood stocks, no pistol grip, no flash hider, no shoulder thing that goes up, no "sniper scope," and just plain iron sights. What's not to like?
It did pass under the radar during the Clinton gun ban.
Just got an email from the NRA about all this stuff, and here is what it (the email) says about the Mini-14:
Three very popular rifles: The M1 Carbine (introduced in 1944 and for many years sold by the federal government to individuals involved in marksmanship competition), a model of the Ruger Mini-14, and most or all models of the SKS.
I'm assuming that they're banning the tactical model.......with the shoulder thing that goes up.
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Yeah, I bought my mini-14 a month ago from Gallery of guns. They had the tactical model for $30 cheaper but I passed thinking the regular model might pass easier. Andyeah on the "shoulder thing" there Carolyn McCarthy :cool:
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They will ban, or try to ban, or restrict anything capable of accepting a magazine.
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The Annoyed Man wrote:PBR, I mean both. With the looming AWB, there are no ARs to be found. If I'm not mistaken, the original Mini-14 was Ruger's attempt to get into the competition for the light caliber battle rifle, which was eventually won by Stoner's design. They are notoriously nowhere near as accurate as a decent AR, but they have good practical accuracy, meaning good enough to get the job done, and I don't recall any particular reliability issues. It's based on a design which is VERY reliable......the Garand/M14 action......not identical, but similar. It's a scaled down Garand in the action, but its gas system is not like any of the U.S. service rifles.

Anyway, it's not an AR, so it might be easier to find than an AR, and it still shoots the caliber. About the ban, the only thing we know is that the rifles are to be named. We have to pass it first so that we can know what's in it.....because that's how democrats do business.....but I digress....

But if I had to bet, my guess would be that a Ruger Mini-14 would just slide in under the radar because it has never really been heavily marketed as a tactical rifle. They sold some to police departments and correctional departments, but the vast majority were sold in the civilian market to people who threw them in the back of the truck as a ranch rifle. A few people hunted with them because, well, isn't a ranch rifle/truck gun just a lightweight hunting rifle? Most of them have wood stocks, no pistol grip, no flash hider, no shoulder thing that goes up, no "sniper scope," and just plain iron sights. What's not to like?

Maybe, maybe not. I was reading the other day that the Ruger 10/22 is very popular in the UK, but it was banned in Australia --there's no logic to the bans, so it's anybody's guess.
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PBR wrote:from what i see and read on this new proposal is that it wont slide under it --- anything with a detachable mag or capable of more than 10 rounds will fall into it -- yea ar's are going crazy right now thats why i was wondering what you meant -- i actually have a new ar im thinking on listing just cause i know can get a decent price for it right now -- brand new and havent even sighted it in yet -- only the test shoot through it

I don't understand the "capable of a mag of more than 10 rounds" part.....seems to me that bans any gun with a detachable magazine, since someone is capable of making a magazine for it that holds more than 10 rounds. Glock has those impractical 30 round mags. You can buy 12 round mags for a 1911, so wouldn't that be banned too?
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VMI77 wrote:
PBR wrote:from what i see and read on this new proposal is that it wont slide under it --- anything with a detachable mag or capable of more than 10 rounds will fall into it -- yea ar's are going crazy right now thats why i was wondering what you meant -- i actually have a new ar im thinking on listing just cause i know can get a decent price for it right now -- brand new and havent even sighted it in yet -- only the test shoot through it

I don't understand the "capable of a mag of more than 10 rounds" part.....seems to me that bans any gun with a detachable magazine, since someone is capable of making a magazine for it that holds more than 10 rounds. Glock has those impractical 30 round mags. You can buy 12 round mags for a 1911, so wouldn't that be banned too?
I've wondered about that too. Is the bill intentionally being written with that language so that lawmakers who vote, but barely read the bill, will believe it's just a high capacity magazine ban? And later, after becomes law, those who wrote it can say, "oh no, it means exactly what it says" meaning all pistols with a detachable magazine are effectively banned. Those who were duped, or were either too lazy to read it and understand its meaning, or just plain ignorant of firearms, or ill informed by their staff, would be helpless to repeal it. Just wondering :confused5
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