Colorado Bill Would Relinquish State Powers
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Colorado Bill Would Relinquish State Powers
Just when you think the Democrats could not do any more harebrained things. If this is passed, it may set in motion copycat bills by democrats in other states.
...“This is absolutely insane,” Rep. Lo ...
http://www.wnd.com/2013/03/state-grants ... ew-powers/
...“This is absolutely insane,” Rep. Lo ...
http://www.wnd.com/2013/03/state-grants ... ew-powers/
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Still testing the boundaries, I see. How far can we go? How much resolve do the people really have? Can we get enough power to seal the deal before they realize they're sunk?
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http://www.secretservice.gov/protection.shtml" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Authorization
Today, the Secret Service is authorized by law (18 United States Code § 3056) to protect:
The president, the vice president, (or other individuals next in order of succession to the Office of the President), the president-elect and vice president-elect
The immediate families of the above individuals
Former presidents and their spouses for their lifetimes, except when the spouse remarries. In 1997, Congressional legislation became effective limiting Secret Service protection to former presidents for a period of not more than 10 years from the date the former president leaves office
Children of former presidents until age 16
Visiting heads of foreign states or governments and their spouses traveling with them, other distinguished foreign visitors to the United States, and official representatives of the United States performing special missions abroad
Major presidential and vice presidential candidates, and their spouses within 120 days of a general presidential election. As defined in statute, the term "major presidential and vice presidential candidates" means those individuals identified as such by the Secretary of Homeland Security after consultation with an advisory committee consisting of the Speaker of the House of Representatives, the minority leader of the House of Representatives, the majority and minority leaders of the Senate, and one additional member selected by the other members of the committee.
Other individuals as designated per Executive Order of the President
National Special Security Events, when designated as such by the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security"
dont see enforcing state laws in tier propaganda
however they have two missions
VISION STATEMENT
The vision of the United States Secret Service is to uphold the tradition of excellence in its investigative and protective mission through a dedicated, highly-trained, diverse, partner-oriented workforce that employs progressive technology and promotes professionalism.
MISSION STATEMENT
The mission of the United States Secret Service is to safeguard the nation's financial infrastructure and payment systems to preserve the integrity of the economy, and to protect national leaders, visiting heads of state and government, designated sites and National Special Security Events.
from the FAQ page.
What legal authority and powers do Secret Service agents have?
Under Title 18, Section 3056, of the United States Code, agents and officers of the United States Secret Service can:
Carry firearms
Execute warrants issued under the laws of the United States
Make arrests without warrants for any offense against the United States committed in their presence, or for any felony recognizable under the laws of the United States if they have reasonable grounds to believe that the person to be arrested has committed such felony
Offer and pay rewards for services and information leading to the apprehension of persons involved in the violation of the law that the Secret Service is authorized to enforce
Investigate fraud in connection with identification documents, fraudulent commerce, fictitious instruments and foreign securities and
Perform other functions and duties authorized by law
The Secret Service works closely with the United States Attorney's Office in both protective and investigative matters.
maybe a co lawmaker could justify the using of ss agents if "Make arrests without warrants for any offense against the United States committed in their presence"
bet it would make for one heck of a legal battle
Authorization
Today, the Secret Service is authorized by law (18 United States Code § 3056) to protect:
The president, the vice president, (or other individuals next in order of succession to the Office of the President), the president-elect and vice president-elect
The immediate families of the above individuals
Former presidents and their spouses for their lifetimes, except when the spouse remarries. In 1997, Congressional legislation became effective limiting Secret Service protection to former presidents for a period of not more than 10 years from the date the former president leaves office
Children of former presidents until age 16
Visiting heads of foreign states or governments and their spouses traveling with them, other distinguished foreign visitors to the United States, and official representatives of the United States performing special missions abroad
Major presidential and vice presidential candidates, and their spouses within 120 days of a general presidential election. As defined in statute, the term "major presidential and vice presidential candidates" means those individuals identified as such by the Secretary of Homeland Security after consultation with an advisory committee consisting of the Speaker of the House of Representatives, the minority leader of the House of Representatives, the majority and minority leaders of the Senate, and one additional member selected by the other members of the committee.
Other individuals as designated per Executive Order of the President
National Special Security Events, when designated as such by the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security"
dont see enforcing state laws in tier propaganda
however they have two missions
VISION STATEMENT
The vision of the United States Secret Service is to uphold the tradition of excellence in its investigative and protective mission through a dedicated, highly-trained, diverse, partner-oriented workforce that employs progressive technology and promotes professionalism.
MISSION STATEMENT
The mission of the United States Secret Service is to safeguard the nation's financial infrastructure and payment systems to preserve the integrity of the economy, and to protect national leaders, visiting heads of state and government, designated sites and National Special Security Events.
from the FAQ page.
What legal authority and powers do Secret Service agents have?
Under Title 18, Section 3056, of the United States Code, agents and officers of the United States Secret Service can:
Carry firearms
Execute warrants issued under the laws of the United States
Make arrests without warrants for any offense against the United States committed in their presence, or for any felony recognizable under the laws of the United States if they have reasonable grounds to believe that the person to be arrested has committed such felony
Offer and pay rewards for services and information leading to the apprehension of persons involved in the violation of the law that the Secret Service is authorized to enforce
Investigate fraud in connection with identification documents, fraudulent commerce, fictitious instruments and foreign securities and
Perform other functions and duties authorized by law
The Secret Service works closely with the United States Attorney's Office in both protective and investigative matters.
maybe a co lawmaker could justify the using of ss agents if "Make arrests without warrants for any offense against the United States committed in their presence"
bet it would make for one heck of a legal battle
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During the 82nd legislature SB 947 was sponsored by Dan Patrick and Cindy Burkett, I believe it died in Calendars, it provided a greater level authority to federal agents than the CO bill does.
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The Colorado law would grant peace officer status to any member of any branch of the Secret Service to be able to arrest whom they believe to be breaking state law(supposedly those stiff necked Sheriffs). It seems to me this is being put in place for abuse by the Executive branch of the Government.
The post above that lists the duties of the Secret Service mentions they protect former Presidents for 10 years. Not Obama and Bush. Obama recently quietly signed into law a new directive--he gets a lifetime of Secret Service protection. I guess he added Bush on so the law would get put through without fanfare. I saw only one announcement of it on the evening news.
I'm guessing he plans to continue annoying a lot of people whom he feels he will need to fear for as long as he lives. I can't imagine what a lifetime of protection by these guys will cost the taxpayer.
http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/10/obama ... rotection/
The post above that lists the duties of the Secret Service mentions they protect former Presidents for 10 years. Not Obama and Bush. Obama recently quietly signed into law a new directive--he gets a lifetime of Secret Service protection. I guess he added Bush on so the law would get put through without fanfare. I saw only one announcement of it on the evening news.
I'm guessing he plans to continue annoying a lot of people whom he feels he will need to fear for as long as he lives. I can't imagine what a lifetime of protection by these guys will cost the taxpayer.
http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/10/obama ... rotection/
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My OppinionRoadRunnerTR21 wrote:Maybe Obama slipped this new directive because he will fear for his life from this point on. After all he will go back to the "safe" streets of Chicago at some point after he leaves office.
1. He is not intending to leave office.
2. He alread has food tasters I understand.

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the emperor has NO plans to leave the office of Supreme ruler of the peoples republic of Amerka, he will pick his successor like all dictators when he is too old or infirm to continue to terrorize what is left of this once great nation
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I'm sure he would stay if he could. Some continue to try and get rid of the 22nd Amendment. I'm sure many in this country would like nothing better than to keep Obama in office...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2975469/posts
This is just the latest attempt earlier this year.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2975469/posts
This is just the latest attempt earlier this year.
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I can't stand Obama, and I agree that he is an imperial president, but to be fair, this law restores lifetime protection for former presidents. The reason it includes only Obama and Bush so far is that they are the only ones who would not have lifetime protection. Clinton has it. GHW Bush has it. Carter has it. Reagan had it until he died, etc., etc., etc. The law was changed with GW Bush, limiting him to 10 years post-office protection. The new law restores that protection to GW Bush, and extends it to Obama and all future presidents going forward.TexasGal wrote:The Colorado law would grant peace officer status to any member of any branch of the Secret Service to be able to arrest whom they believe to be breaking state law(supposedly those stiff necked Sheriffs). It seems to me this is being put in place for abuse by the Executive branch of the Government.
The post above that lists the duties of the Secret Service mentions they protect former Presidents for 10 years. Not Obama and Bush. Obama recently quietly signed into law a new directive--he gets a lifetime of Secret Service protection. I guess he added Bush on so the law would get put through without fanfare. I saw only one announcement of it on the evening news.
I'm guessing he plans to continue annoying a lot of people whom he feels he will need to fear for as long as he lives. I can't imagine what a lifetime of protection by these guys will cost the taxpayer.
http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/10/obama ... rotection/
It may be an expense to the taxpayer, but the truth is that no matter what a former POTUS's personal ideological slant happens to be, he or she will tick off enough fringe nutburgers while in office that they remain under an assassination threat even in retirement. They do deserve some kind of protection until they die, and as much as I hate Obama, I don't want him or anyone else I disagree with to have to live in fear of assassination after leaving office. We may some day elect another George Washington, and he should not have to fear for his life after retiring. You can't extend that protection selectively, and the problem with the law as it stood until Obama signed the new one into existence is that it was selectively extended. We had former presidents who were covered, and former presidents who were not.
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I certainly can not argue that, but it seems to me they have a pretty nice retirement package as it is. What's wrong with hiring his own bodyguards after 10 years? Its more protection than he wants citizens to have.
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Supposedly, according to this article, there was a bill recently brought up in the Texas legislature to do the same kind of thing.
Supposedly, according to this article, there was a bill recently brought up in the Texas legislature to do the same kind of thing.
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In the 82nd legislature, Dan Patrick authored four bills and sponsored none according to the state legislature website.Dadtodabone wrote:During the 82nd legislature SB 947 was sponsored by Dan Patrick and Cindy Burkett, I believe it died in Calendars, it provided a greater level authority to federal agents than the CO bill does.
Legislature: 82(1) - 2011
Click for options SB 17 Author: Patrick
Last Action: 05/31/2011 S Filed
Caption Version: Introduced
Caption: Relating to creation of a study committee for the Interstate Health Care Compact.
Click for options SB 20 Author: Patrick
Last Action: 05/31/2011 S Filed
Caption Version: Introduced
Caption: Relating to the eligibility of certain citizens residing outside the United States to vote a full ballot.
Click for options SB 21 Author: Patrick
Last Action: 05/31/2011 S Filed
Caption Version: Introduced
Caption: Relating to distributing or prescribing abortion-inducing drugs; providing an administrative penalty.
Click for options SB 29 Author: Patrick | et al. Sponsor: Simpson
Last Action: 06/29/2011 H Motion to suspend rules fails
Caption Version: House Committee Report
Caption: Relating to prosecution and punishment for the offense of official oppression by the intrusive touching of persons seeking access to public buildings and transportation; providing penalties.
EDIT: According to the Texas Tribune Dan Patrick was "involved" in 89 bills. Among those bills was SB 947 which is described thus: " House Committee Report: Relating to granting limited state law enforcement authority to certain criminal investigators of the United States and to other federal law enforcement personnel."
No idea why it won't come up on the legislature site. Here's a text of the bill (no idea if it's the final form). The law was passed and may be read here and it specifically states that the federal agents "shall not be deemed peace officers" but grants them powers of arrest only within their specific areas of purview. For example, Customs Agents can detain someone until Texas peace officers arrive if they observe the person violating a Texas criminal code. Secret Service agents can arrest someone and seize property if the person is implicated in a case the SS is investigating.
That's not nearly as broad as this CO law.
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Current Version: http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/clics2 ... 13_rer.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Status: http://www.legispeak.com/bill/2013/sb13-013" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Violation of Oath of office.
What's the process for impeaching the majority party in its entirety, when it so clearly breaks its oath?
Hard to believe this is America. Even harder to believe it's Colorado.
Liberty Weeps.

Status: http://www.legispeak.com/bill/2013/sb13-013" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
When is somebody going to bring a suit against those that voted for this?Most Recent Status Updates
03/28/13 House Third Reading Passed
03/27/13 House Second Reading Special Order - Passed
03/22/13 House Second Reading Laid Over Daily
03/19/13 House Committee on Judiciary Refer Unamended to House Committee of the Whole
02/20/13 Introduced In House - Assigned to Judiciary
02/19/13 Senate Third Reading Passed
Violation of Oath of office.
What's the process for impeaching the majority party in its entirety, when it so clearly breaks its oath?
Hard to believe this is America. Even harder to believe it's Colorado.
Liberty Weeps.

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